Nah, a bushpig is a fugly chic you wake up next to after a night's heavy drinking. Those rifle remains you've posted can only be defined as "bubba'd fuck up"Quote:
Originally Posted by Bol Tackshin
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Nah, a bushpig is a fugly chic you wake up next to after a night's heavy drinking. Those rifle remains you've posted can only be defined as "bubba'd fuck up"Quote:
Originally Posted by Bol Tackshin
It's part of the bull shit culture. Anyway, most so called "bush pigs" never go bush hunting their entire lives. It's a fad more than a necessity.
No one called a Model 7 with a 18/20" barrel a bush pig when they were introduced. We just said that they were handy light little rifles that didnt get hung up and bash trees so much. Most people ignored them all together and continued to get good tallies hunting in the trees with their 27" barrelled 303's. God knows how they did it.
The latest trend is to say or write "public land" as much and often as you can. Apparently that makes you a better hunter, and those who don't, less so.
It seems that hunting public land with a bush pig (or a "long range rig") can be a climactic event - especially if you shoot a deer from a "blind" and then do a "recovery" and butcher the animal using various gadgets from a "kill kit". FFS.
Im going to die as a bitter old man and be happy doing it.
Would ‘chode’ not do the same thing?Quote:
Originally Posted by SPEARONZ
You, sir, are a retrobate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
I resemble that remark!Quote:
Originally Posted by John Duxbury
I always liked how the pommy grunts called their rifles "shooters" - pronounced "shoe-ah".Quote:
Originally Posted by HILLBILLYHUNTERS
But yeah it was a cardinal sin to call your rifle a 'gun'. or refer to an assault rifle (semi auto or fully auto) as a machine gun. Tell me you're a civvy without telling me hahaha
I'm noticing a very very concerning trend here.
I'm thinking along the same lines and agreeing with you "more senior gentlemen".
What does that mean?
I'd also like to know what the term metrosexual means, and does it have a place in this conversation?
I heard it once at a lunch at a fancy vineyard on Waiheke. We were there with my wife's workmates (farm advisers of all things).
About all I took from the conversation was that I'm not a metrosexual.
Now you're going deep. I have a couple of mates, about half my age, both Auckland located, who I often refer to (and in their presence to their vast amusement) as "metrosexuals". They are both straight and happily married/partnered so nothing to do with gender diversity lol. It has more to do with them not just not owning e.g. a hammer, but not knowing such a thing exists. Others mileage may differ.Quote:
Originally Posted by 7mmwsm
this has turned around but fun as many of these posts are so I think I may qualify as a retrobate sort-of - but my go to favourite rifle is old- a carbine 18 1/2 but made well before the term bush pig - so how do I lose the term retrobate - if any one tells me to go into guncity and buy a plastic Tikka in 6-5 creedmore cut it down suppressor and Z5 on it I do know what I am - a clone - no thanks - Benelli Lupo well maybe - but a nice piece of walnut for me - so I quess I will stay a retrobate and love it
A carbine is just a short rifle for cavalry. These were only useful for cartridge rifles from the mid 1800's. A short rifle for hunting is a Stutzen. These date from at least the middle 1700's. One I found was a 60 calibre flintlock with a 22 inch barrel. I might start calling my little Bergara single shot a Stutzen.
GPM.
Reprobate. Check what it actually meansQuote:
Originally Posted by Barry the hunter
I feel this thread has been greatly beneficial to the forum community. It has allowed the elders amongst us to vent a little about the changing cultures (was going to say "advancing" culture but we know thats not true).
John even came up with a new term! (with my assistance)
Tahr hit on a whole new culture (those blind shooters dont use "bushpigs" btw).
I was just advocating for the use of the term "bushpig" for the plastic/carbon stock, scoped, suppressed, shortened rifle that seems to be very kiwi piece of equipment now. When someone says "carbine" i immediately think of an old .303 jungle carbine, open sights and definitely no suppressor. These old rifles definitely do not come under the "bushpig" title. So you old fellas can definitely keep using "carbine" for all your old rifles.
I'm sure the term bushpig is used in about every nz hunting magazine for the last decade or so. It's standardized now. Sticks and stones right?
yes I do know what it means - some of it sounds like fun- but John has coined a new word retrobate and has been kind enough to provide a definition - me well call me what you like - water of a ducks back -the only insult I wont accept is useless shotQuote:
Originally Posted by akaroa1
Bushpig is quite an acceptable term in certain situations, check out the "Bubba, what have you done thread?"
I'm quite proud of my work there. It's still going strong and it's well into the double digits of pages now:DQuote:
Originally Posted by No good names left
So where does Carbine Williams fit in to this, did he get the name from the gun, or the gun from him?
is it Car Bine? or Car Been? :)
Sounds like the whole thread is a turning into a retargument.
You say Potatoe and I say potarto
You say tomatoe and I say blow it out ya ringpiece :D
Lets call the whole thing off
You forgot about the bit where you need to punch up through the scrubQuote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
And the silence descending after the helo
I understand that one.Quote:
Originally Posted by John Duxbury
That first moment of silence after the chopper leaves. No more contact with or reminders of civilisation. A moment to think of the possibilities now before you. The hope of a good experience just before the actual work to achieve it starts.
Bush pigs with dialup scopes though, how naff!
Bush pig is gay as fuk. Ill just call mine a remington mohawk
Call it what you want.
Mention “bushpig” to any NZ hunter, and they know what you’re talking about.
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Originally Posted by whanahuia
Its the first line of every article ever published in NZ Hunter. But they are called helos now, not choppers. That's how you transport your bushpig around, in a helo. Like the Marine Corps.
“Chode” is the term my partner uses to refer to her ex husband’s baby makerQuote:
Originally Posted by Missalot
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Carbines they were, and are, but screw a suppressor on the end of it and it looks like a pigs snout from front on. So I can see how the slang term came about.
What's the difference between a traditional Bush Pig and a Honda 50 step-through ?
Nothing.... they're both fun to ride until your mates catch you doing it.
You might be right. Too be fair I stopped reading them many years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by John Duxbury
"Bush pigs" are just specific sub-set of carbines. It's not a great name, but we all sure as hell know what it means.
Okay, we seem to be a bit split on the term "Bushpig" what about the term "glassing".
I'm guilty of this one, get to a good vantage point, get set up and do some glassing. Probably a more suitable term would be "looking".
Your definition of glassing fits with mine. Again it has a specific meaning in our kiwi hunting vernacular and is a sub-set all the things one could describe as looking. Even just the phase "looking for a deer" could mean bunch of different activities. I reckon we'd all agree with your definition of glassing to mean sit somewhere with a view and look for deer with a pair of binos.
For extra gayness points do any of you name your bush pigs?
I call mine WilliamQuote:
Originally Posted by blip
Jeez this thread really got everyone going aye?!?
It’s an interesting thing about human nature, that every generation before the current one believes that the current ‘young generation’ are a bunch of fuck-ups on a strange trajectory, and aren’t anywhere near as sorted as the the previous. ‘Back in my day’ ‘the youngsters these days’ and all that B-S. Reality is that you ‘more experienced folk are no different to the current lot. Your brand new 1960’s Sako vixen or forester was a whole lot more advanced and long range capable than the .303s that the old guard were using. Those boys would have said the same thing about you- ‘what do you need a variable scope for sonny? 4x like on my old 3-0 is all you need! And don’t you know that those new fangled variables are unreliable?’
So someone came up with a pop culture term for a rifle setup, that was essentially pioneered in NZ? Cool. Who cares what it is, the important thing is that they’ve taken off for good reason. We have a generation of hunters (and shooters) that are far more educated on rifles and ballistics than ever before. They’ll be less likely to need hearing aids in their old age, and with their ‘fancy new gear’ will be able to hit those distant deer that (at the current time) need to be shot. I personally can’t see an issue.
PS the Duleys called it a Bushpig because with a suppressor right up against the stock, the rifle had a short stubby snout- like a pig. And because they were primarily developed for short range work in the bush - Bushpig.
Is this a bushpig then
Nothing like the ones I have dated in the past
https://www.nzhuntingandshooting.co....-socom-112357/
good lord blip what have you done do we really want to know noooooooQuote:
Originally Posted by blip
Lol. I like the cut of your jib.Quote:
Originally Posted by William
I wonder if the young guys are familiar with the term banter. Something the older guys used to do without getting hurt feelings....Quote:
Originally Posted by Hunter_Nick
I have a mate who named his bushpig ‘Billy Kimber’ I am now in danger of being shot with it as he will read this post ��
