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Chilli_Dog JW 15, or any 22 LR accuracy... 03-01-2017, 09:27 AM
Shootm My JW15 likes 42gn Winchester... 03-01-2017, 09:55 AM
rambo-6mmrem mudgripz is the guy to talk to 03-01-2017, 10:16 AM
Ultimitsu My 2 cents...What most people... 03-01-2017, 11:22 AM
223nut Where do you get ammo at... 03-01-2017, 12:38 PM
Ultimitsu I buy from reloaders or... 03-01-2017, 01:00 PM
zimmer Unfortunately Lapua in tins... 03-01-2017, 02:43 PM
timattalon One point I would like to... 03-01-2017, 01:37 PM
FatLabrador My father been useing the ... 03-01-2017, 02:06 PM
timattalon + Not quite sure what you... 03-01-2017, 06:26 PM
Chilli_Dog I was waiting for a comment... 03-01-2017, 08:22 PM
viper I am not sure what your... 04-01-2017, 11:40 AM
Chilli_Dog Im pretty much asking what a... 04-01-2017, 09:19 PM
Ultimitsu That is like asking, what is... 05-01-2017, 12:04 AM
mudgripz Chilli - a fair sporting 22... 05-01-2017, 12:26 AM
Chilli_Dog Thanks, I might have to look... 05-01-2017, 06:50 AM
Marty Henry There are a few threads on... 04-01-2017, 12:57 PM
distant stalker The old orange box Winchester... 04-01-2017, 01:39 PM
Bagheera My opinion is that only the... 04-01-2017, 04:28 PM
dirtyhabit That's why I stick to one... 04-01-2017, 08:09 PM
Steve123 Try getting a CZ ten round... 05-01-2017, 06:42 AM
oraki Heaps of wildlife around... 05-01-2017, 01:29 PM
Chilli_Dog Its funny, Dads over the hill... 05-01-2017, 08:16 PM
oraki Was only an observation I've... 13-01-2017, 08:37 AM
Ranger 888 The secrets to good groups... 19-01-2017, 06:00 PM
smidey Mine is an over barrel... 05-01-2017, 07:47 PM
Chilli_Dog I had that issue with the... 05-01-2017, 08:11 PM
smidey Not had any that bad, just a... 05-01-2017, 08:53 PM
Steve123 Mine doesn't like extracting... 06-01-2017, 09:13 AM
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    My 2 cents...What most people often call "flyers" are not flyers at all. they are simply the true grouping of the rifle. it is human nature that we want to believe that our rifles are more accurate than they really are. We want to believe that these 3 tight shots are the real group and the last one that was is 1 inch off is a flyer. Personally I only consider a group of 10 shots to be representative of a rifle's grouping. 3~5 shots are too small as a sample group to count.

    There are only 2 applications for a rifle which you care about its grouping, non-close range hunting and target shooting. If your rifle often gives you flyers, say average 1 flyer in every 5 shots, then it is no good for either. Think about hunting, you get to go out once a month, you drive for an hour to your mate's farm, you walk for an hour before you find a rabbit/magpie at 60 meters, now you are going to have 1 in 5 chance of missing because the "flyers". I once wasted about two years with a rifle that I thought had a lot of "flyers". I would always mentally blame the misses on the flyers. I have since shot other rifles, unbelievably, far fewer flyers!

    This is not to say there are not real flyers - slightly out-of-spec or deformed rounds - they do exist and we all get them every now and then. But I think most ammos today (anything over 7 bucks for 50) are fairly consistent. Obviously the more expensive the ammo the more consistent. The most economical "accurate" 22LR ammo is Lapua Standard Plus, roughly 12 dollars for 50.

 

 

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