Thread: Keeping semi autos cocked

Originally Posted by Banana

Land Transport (Road User) Rule 2004 (SR 2004/427) (as at 01 November 2014) 7.21 Loaded firearms – New Zealand Legislation

Section 2 (c) is a bit beyond my understanding.

I pretty sure some pest controllers have them.

Originally Posted by Banana

I pretty sure some pest controllers have them.

Cool

Originally Posted by Banana

I pretty sure some pest controllers have them.

I thought the days of kea-guns were gone?

I have talked to several people who had these permits back in the day to carry loaded firearm. One was a deer culler and shot kea with it. Another had it for pests in rural Wanganui hill farm. Wanganui guy told me police went cold on permits and recalled them all in the late 70's (can't quite remember what year he said).

Wouldn't have thought it pertained just to one type of old firearm?

Kea gun permits are a different thing.

Originally Posted by Banana

Land Transport (Road User) Rule 2004 (SR 2004/427) (as at 01 November 2014) 7.21 Loaded firearms – New Zealand Legislation

This only applies on a public road though, eh?

I think this only applies to magazines attached or in a firearm not separate from a firearm but then I didnt finish my law degree

Originally Posted by Spook

Section 2 (c) is a bit beyond my understanding.

@Spook Perhaps they are using Constable as a collective term. Like soldiers, they may have a rank of private, lieutenant etc but collectively they are soldiers.

Originally Posted by carlhurley

I think this only applies to magazines attached or in a firearm not separate from a firearm but then I didnt finish my law degree

Third post down on this page.

Originally Posted by Yukon

This only applies on a public road though, eh?

Land Transport (Road User) Rule 2004 (SR 2004/427) (as at 01 November 2014) 1.5 Application – New Zealand Legislation

1.5Application
Unless the context otherwise requires,—
(a)this rule applies to road users and to vehicles on roads:

Land Transport (Road User) Rule 2004 (SR 2004/427) (as at 01 November 2014) 1.6 Interpretation – New Zealand Legislation

road includes—
(a)a street; and
(b)a motorway; and
(c)a beach; and
(d)a place to which the public have access, whether as of right or not; and
(e)all bridges, culverts, ferries, and fords forming part of a road or street or motorway or a place referred to in paragraph (d); and
(f)all sites at which vehicles may be weighed for the purposes of the Act or any other enactment

Every motorcycle,4wd,moutain bike,and car I have owned the springs sagged or "sacked out" to some degree, my LN106 front springs were the worst, tried various expensive aftermarket ones and after a year they were sagged, getting them reset usually got another 6-8 months out of them.

Basicly it comes down to design, if the spring is being worked right up to its elastic limit it will sag,bet your familys life on it, if it is being worked well under its elastic limit it should last indefinitely.

Is your particular magazine spring or firing spring being worked to its elastic limit? I have no idea but on a modern firearm I doubt it.

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

Every motorcycle,4wd,moutain bike,and car I have owned the springs sagged or "sacked out" to some degree, my LN106 front springs were the worst, tried various expensive aftermarket ones and after a year they were sagged, getting them reset usually got another 6-8 months out of them.

Basicly it comes down to design, if the spring is being worked right up to its elastic limit it will sag,bet your familys life on it, if it is being worked well under its elastic limit it should last indefinitely.

Is your particular magazine spring or firing spring being worked to its elastic limit? I have no idea but on a modern firearm I doubt it.

Exactly. I know that most semi 22's will not cycle subsonic ammo out of the box but after a fair but of use or being stored with the bolt open they will. This logically indicates to me that they are being worked above their elastic limit and that the least compression over time they are subjected to the least quickly they will get to a point where they need replacement springs.

my guess would be that over time they will get weaker from use why else would you need replacement springs for firearms cars trucks motor bikes etc personaly I don't leave my firearms cocked and in storage