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Given how difficult/expensive it is to get anything in the way of a lightweight and functional (non flexible plastic) Blaser stock, I wonder if there would be enough interest to dilute the set up cost and make the price a bit more reasonable???Quote:
Originally Posted by PerazziSC3
I don’t see extreme difficulty especially if the donor action/block was supplied to be set into a aluminium chassis. These are available, slightly pricey https://akila.ltd/product/acsr93/Quote:
Originally Posted by Rich007
Was just an answer :DQuote:
Originally Posted by PerazziSC3
If there's something your keen on and it's feasible then I'm all earsQuote:
Originally Posted by Rich007
sounds like you Blazer guys need to DIY with some paulownia.....
@Wingman do you mind sharing your load data for the 123gr ELDM? Hoping to load some rounds up to test for mine thats being built this week :thumbsup:
28.3 gns of 8208 was the go to in both my Grendels, 20" barrel 2530 fps. 123 sst.Quote:
Originally Posted by 6.5 CRD
I ran 28gr to 28.2gr loaded to mag length in my custom trueflight grendel. My Howa any many others I've tested didn't like the 123gr ELDM as much as the 123gr Amax or 120gr. There are 2 different Grendel chamber designs one has a shorter compound 1.5deg throat and the "G2" which I more suited to hybrid/secant ogives and longer seating depths.
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Awesome, thankyou. Gives me a good idea on where to start.
Another short barrel data point for .222 this time. Probably not much use to any of you since it sounds like they canned the 222 but it might be interesting.
Wingman hooked me up with a .222 barrel which I finished to 10.5" to match my 300blk barrel. Kind of counter intuitive but I mount my scope super high counter intuitively too so why not try it out. It was short to start with so no major loss, except for velocity. Should still be enough to pop some rabbits with. Hoping to get at least 2800fps.
40gn Vmax, Winchester brass, CCI 400 primers, W296, 2205 and some CFE black, just enough to get an idea of where to start. I had some data for the 2205 and CFEBLK but nothing on the W296. GRT showed some pretty safe numbers so gave it a go.
2205 18.2gn 2759fps - pretty mild, still a bit of room to improve
CFEBLK 22.5gn 3063fps - bit more like it, probably on the upper end so not much room to improve
W296 18.5gn 3220fps - bolt was quite snug so need to dial it back a bit. There is quite a bit of space in the case and 296 is a bit zingy so may stick with the other powders.
Nothing too amazing for 222 but from a 10.5 inch barrel it's pretty zippy. I'll try a few with BM1 and BM2 and some 2208 for good measure.
Might try some .222 subs also. It would be handy to use sort of like a .22lr. I normally carry my .22 with the thermal on it on my way to where the deer seem to be kicking around then whip the Elude out of my bag, screw it all together, switch the thermal over and put the 22 on my back. Only takes a minute to switch but carrying the extra rifle up the hill at the end of the night is a bit of a pain, especially if I wasted a few possums on my way down and have to carry them up too.
3.5grns of trailboss behind a 60grn is stupidly quiet...... found a 4grn behind 55grn load for the 223 so tweaked it and it works. @Sparrowgun
Hi all i puled some Belmont 223 subsonic ammo and found they used 4.10 grain Trail Boss under 55 grain projectile ..
you could try some Hornady 45grain Bee H Point x 4.10 grain Trail Bos just subsonic - to 5.50 grain that has a bit of an echo up the valley ..
cheers
Thanks guys! That helps heaps. Had a go with the TB and some 50gn ZMAX my bro in law gave me. Got yellow tips so I can tell them apart from the 40gn super loads I'll eventually load.
50gn Zmax with Trailboss - 222REM 10.5" 1:14 barrel of some sort
4.0gn - 1145fps
3.7gn - 1125fps
3.2gn - 970fps - repeated with 3x more to get a group 973, 997, 969.
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Looks like they are going through sideways. Shot at 50m, the small squares are 1moa at 50. Was pretty gusty. Maybe 10.5" is too short to get some good stabilisation. I'll load a few more at 3.3gn for some extra speed and extra rpm. Shouldn't clip the suppressor hopefully.
I have counter intuitively mounted an SIII 6-24 on counter intuitive super high rings which makes Wingman go into fetal position. Can't shoot what you can't see haha. I have the same mount on the thermal, no POI shift when I switch them over.
Don't paint your shooting bench white unless you like snow blindness btw. I drilled and tapped the side of the butt for a QD sling socket and stuck one on the left side of the fore end. Seems to sit pretty stable when slung over the front or back, even with the huge scope. Need to hit it with a bit more paint, it's wearing off in a few spots but I kinda like the worn look.
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Was it worth the wait? Absolutely!!!
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The Magpull MOE+ grip is perfect though would have preferred the OD Green. Soft fitted scope and suppressor and adjusted the cheek piece back a bit just to get a feel for it. Been awhile since I’ve had a pistol grip rifle and you have to really get on this thing, if that makes sense. Getting more comfortable by the day. When I’ve sorted a rail I’ll mount up the red dot and see what the go is with that as I’ve never used one before.
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This thing is criminally light and well built, just need to drop the barreled action in and pick a grip.
Cheers @robhughes-games for the great service
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Howa mini action with Sytong PM03-50 thermal
Now I'm jealous of something I made. Hahah.nice
Heya..Quote:
Originally Posted by taking_the_gun_for_a_walk
How much pic rail do you need for the Mountain bipod. I have a 3 groove M-lok... yours looks like a 7 groove plus...??
Any updates on how the latest lot of rifles are coming along @Wingman? Last i spoke with dave he said mine would be ready monday (Brian).
Sounds like you have more info than me.. I have a stack of chassis on my bench all waiting for barreled actions to arrive. Did Dave tell you which "Monday"? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by 6.5 CRD
Well originally when i ordered and paid i was told a week, which has become a month now. Was supposed to be end of last week but that didnt eventuate and then dave said will be ready this monday just gone. Communication has been piss poor which is frustrating,ive had to initiate it every time, a realistic eta from the beginning would have been nice. Realise its not your fault, would like to just have a realistic eta not another “will be next week mate”Quote:
Originally Posted by Wingman
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Great to see a business become a victim of their own success with a locally developed and built product. Well done them. Just need to learn the old mantra of under promising and over delivering coupled with prompt communication and things will sort themselves out. Common problem with a lot of small businesses that run lean but haven’t developed some core competencies.
Yes, it can be frustrating but patience is the key, it’s not like it’s a life or death situation if you don’t receive it on the specific day or time. I’d prefer something done well than done in a hurry and it is certainly worth the wait. Hang in there!!:thumbsup:
Yes your right its not a life or death situation, however that doesnt excuse the situation. Over promising and not delivering just makes for frustrated customers and a bad reputation. Be honest with the customer dont just say what they want to hear to get them through the door and swipe their card. If i was told a realistic eta from the beginning patience wouldnt be an issue but dont tell me it will be a week, then next week, then the next, then “it will be done monday ill call you when its ready” then not call. Thats just piss poor business.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sidetrack
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Originally Posted by Sidetrack
Not quiet the situation. Hopefully soon supply won't be an issue
Hi all it is really worth the wait for this "work of art chassis "
i under stand the concerns of the purchaser as we all need/want it now and i have been one of them too haha
Good luck with your build ..
Its not a case of need/want now, its the principal of it all that pisses me off. Clearly dave is just full of shit. I understand theres people out there waiting for things from businesses for alot longer than this, again not the point. I went into store to check out the chassis & dave sold me the dream. Paid up front in full and told he could have a barrelled action in overnight, grip overnight & chassis was on hand, would take a week to get one together. Great!
Bit over a week goes by, no call so i call to see where we are at, have to ring a handful of times to finally get through and get told sorry next week. No worries, shit happens. Following week still no contact so i call again friday, get the "sorry been so busy will be next week" yarn. End of the next week arrives, still no contact so call again. 3 weeks deep on what was supposed to be a week at this point & dave gives me the "sorry mate its been hectic here keeping up with calls & emails etc, im away tomorrow hunting but your rifle will be done start of next week, i ask monday? and he says yes monday, ill call as soon as its done". Well surprise surprise its now friday, no call on monday or any other day this week, and as wingman has said above he has a bunch of chassis on his bench still waiting for barrelled actions so how my rifle was ever going to be done any of the weeks leading up to now is beyond me. Not to mention what does dave being busy even have to do with it? Hes not the gunsmith wingman is so theoretically all dave had to do was order the parts that the customer paid for so wingman could do the job.
Sorry for the rant but people / businesses like this really grind my gears, it happens all too often and i seem to be on the receiving end of it alot, im not an impatient person by any stretch but for christ sake, dont bullshit the customer, tell it how it is. If its going to be 2 months say its going to be 2 months dont lie to the customer to rope them in. If theres delays just call and explain why. Dont wait for the customer to call you wondering whats going on & then spin them some bullshit. Just be honest with the customer!
Don’t have a dog in this race but if @6.5 CRD is stating facts then that is a good way of going out of business. Doesn’t matter how good a product is, if timelines aren’t kept then customer goodwill goes out the window. Especially these days when everyone seems to think they’re number one customer. On the other hand late delivery isn’t life threatening so maybe chill out.
Its not life threatening but again, not the point. A little honesty goes a long way.
@6.5 CRD
Take this up with Dave directly. Go to the shop and stand in front of him and tell him to his face exactly what you’ve told us on the Forum (several times now). It’s not like what you’re saying is particularly unusual, its Sales 101.
If you don’t do that then nothing is going to change and everything you’ve typed here is just gasbagging.
You would be doing those that are in the same predicament as you a favour and possibly helping it not happen again for the next guy. It is exceptionally annoying there’s no doubt about that, but there is a point when you have to go and sort it out directly.
@Flyblown dont get me wrong im under no illusion that anything i post on here is going to solve the problem, however hopefully it may deter others from getting led down the same path & warn people of the muck around.
For sure, going in store and confronting him is the best solution however not that straight forward when i live 3 hrs away and have a busy work schedule. Im sure hes not going to reimburse me the day off work and travel costs to go down and ask why hes giving me the run around.
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Wrong place for this? @Micky DuckQuote:
Originally Posted by Micky Duck
I think maybe this is why it was posted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Micky Duck
Want to make it clear, this was never having a go at wingman, his work, or these amazing chassis setups as a whole. Unfortunately i have been given the run around by dave / shooter ready, as have many others it seems. Hopefully theres enough information here for people genuinely interested in these to bypass full of shit dave & get in touch with the right people regarding getting their hands on one.
As of this morning have contacted & requested a refund. Fingers crossed they do the right thing.
It was heading that way wasnt it..
Is "Shooter Ready" the only ordering and retail outlet for these neat little things?
I believe so currently, unfortunately. Someone more in the know may want to chime in but i believe it is possible to source them elsewhere.
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The wheels are in motion mate...Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
coming to a town very near me soon!!!!!!! cant wait to see one in the flesh.....
Howdy gents, shallow first post lol. Does anyone know if these things are going to be available to the US? I'm not sure if you guys have similar regulations like we have with ITAR that prohibits stuff going across the pond. I would love to get my hands on one of these chassis's!
Appreciate any info you guys can provide.....and I'm jealous that you guys can buy moderators/suppressors without the BS we have to go through.
Cheers!
