Thread: Kiwis support stricter controls on gun owners

Originally Posted by Chilli_Dog

Seems reasonable, however I dont agree with the last bit. I think the MSSA definition should get binned (completely not just the name) and anything that holds less than 11 rounds is A cat, anything over 11 rounds or shorter than 30inchs (or whatever it is) is E cat then large capacity magazines can be controlled.

So you're suggesting to restrict magazines of any sort above 10 rounds to only people who hold an E cat licence?

Originally Posted by Jexla

So you're suggesting to restrict magazines of any sort above 10 rounds to only people who hold an E cat licence?

Yip, an arbitry line in the sand that I think would solve a few of the concerns the Police have with A cat ARs being used in E cat configuration (which seems to be part of the reason for the current push), while at the same time not being overly restrictive for most users. How many non-semi firearms out there hold more than 11 rounds?

Even though as far as I can see it is a reasonable solution, it is largely irrelevant as it will never happen. I also don't think a register is a good idea and I don't think all semis should end up E cat either.

Originally Posted by Chilli_Dog

\ How many non-semi firearms out there hold more than 11 rounds?

The odd tube mag lever or pump action I guess. Changing the wording to 'detachable magazines' would leave out tube mag guns though if that was an issue.

Originally Posted by Tussock

For all those people who want stricter penalties, you know all you want to do is punish criminals and achieve a little retribution. This does not reduce crime, never has and never will. Tough or tougher, criminals don't care. Its the whole point of criminals. Depressed and fatalistic. They just don't care. Punishing them will male them more depressed and they will care even less than before.

But it costs a fortune. I suggest giving them a mild flogging. Nothing serious, just enough to make the retribution and vengeance crowd happy. Then save 90k a year and don't incarcerate them at all. Just sentence them to X years of massive injections of anti depressants. Make them as timid, flaccid and cheerful as the middle class.

Bwaharrrrr....thanks for the humour Tussock....this will be printed off and hung in my man cave......

PS, im looking for ash now (whittle, whittle)