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I bought a Mark 6 3-18x44 with the M5C2 turrets and TMR reticle. Here's a short overview of the features of the scope, and an admittedly, obviously, poorly designed and executed tracking test that nonetheless was rather illuminating.
http://youtu.be/OKC_KnVVxFo
Stink about the diagonal drift, especially for what you probably payed for it
How did you ensure the scope was mounted level at the range mate?
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mk1 eyeball, but that doesn't matter too much when lining the reticle up vertically with a plumb line while shootingQuote:
Originally Posted by R93
For reference I shot the same tracking test today using my PMII, set up the same and it tracked dead straight up the plumb line.
As you said there is significant amounts of error in your testing method, but no where near enough to account for that much horizontal drift.
How did you find the scope other than the tracking?
How's it compare to the likes of the PM2, and what do you make of the TMR reticle?
I'm quite keen on the new Mark 5HD, but not totally thrilled by the reticle options.
I am confused as to what you are saying.Quote:
Originally Posted by gimp
If you have mechanical cant from mounting it will only get worse as you dial no matter what you line it up with as the error is at the rifle not the image?
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I like it besides the tracking issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beetroot
The parallax/focus is more finicky than the PMII and doesn't zero out as close (can't get parallax free at 50)
The elevation/windage adjustments feel "different" but not worse, the Zerolock is neither here nor there but not intrusive.
I think the CCW turret makes more sense than the CW PMII turret to turn with the left hand from behind the rifle, and the magnification ring is easier to turn.
The optics are worse than the PMII but clear enough for me. It will likely only get used on 18x as a spotting scope for assessing stags, most shooting will be on lower magnifications. Have not done any serious comparison/assessment of the optical quality though.
I really like the TMR reticle; I've had it before in 2 or 3 Mk4 scopes and it's good stuff. It's slightly thicker than the P4F in the PMII which I don't mind. I doubt I will miss not having illumination, given that I never used it in the PMII with the thinner reticle.
It has enough elevation that I might be able to shoot the 19 inch .260 to a mile...
It is very light and compact for what it is.
Mechanical cant from mounting doesn't matter if you have the reticle vertical when shooting (if the reticle is aligned correctly with the erector/turrets so that it tracks exactly vertically) because it's not actually canted in that case. The rifle may be but the scope is not, if the reticle is vertical on a plumb line.Quote:
Originally Posted by R93
I generally only ever mount my scopes level by eyeball anyway & have never found it to be an issue - the human eye is good at detecting very small angles off square.
Ok?Quote:
Originally Posted by gimp
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The E turret is a HUGE improvement over the older higher style.
I’ve always thought the scope had potential and it’s clearly getting better. 3-18 is pretty much the perfect all round mag range. Especially with a generous eyebox.
I've seen another Leupold tracking test video where the scope showed a similar problem, it was reported to be fixed by Leupold without any hassle (except being in NZ you'll have to wait quite a long while as it travels back and forth at the importers whim).
So as you point out in the Video - send it back!
It’s not going anywhere near the NZ importers, I’m sending it back direct to Leupold. No need for a middleman
Should have brought a march
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Maybe for the .223
A dam shame about the tracking but at least Leupold have great warranty. I was looking at getting that same scope, it’s 200g lighter and 2cm shorter than the 4-16x42 F1 ATACR I ended up getting. I really like the zerolock and the capped windage turrets. The TMR reticle would have to be one of the best that Leupold have in my opinion.
What rifle/caliber were you planning on mounting it on?
It will be going on my .260 85 Finnlight when it comes back from Leupold, assuming it's fixed properly
So whats the PM2 going on?Quote:
Originally Posted by gimp
.22 at the moment, hah
Don't have anywhere else to put it and it's not worth selling (and I want to keep it in case the Leupold is a dud in the end)
It is worth selling, i'll give you 500$ for it.
see? not worth it
Well Ok,
don't come complaining to me when you are 500$ short of your next T3
Will you send it to the US or NIOA in Aus?Quote:
Originally Posted by gimp
US. Direct to Beaverton
Sent yesterday, lets see how long it takes to come back
Let see if they find a fault. I would have expected leupold To do a tracking test before putting it onto the market.specially at that price.
And they issues you sending direct back to you rather than the distro?Quote:
Originally Posted by gimp
Not that I’m aware of
What price did you get it for? And from where?
Cheers
$1850 US + shipping + GST. LibertyOptics
Deal! Of course, you do realise, now that you have disclosed this the Russians' know.Quote:
Originally Posted by gimp
It’s publicly listed on their website for anyone with the initiative to google “Leupold Mk6 sale” to find
My long range shooting partner bought the same scope. He mounted it, took it to the range and had a play then sold it. He liked the overall idea of the scope, short and light, but like gimp mentioned the focus was so finicky he couldn’t like it.
I see the pm2 ultra short has perfected the idea.
How’s that for turnaround time; the MK6 arrived at Leupold on Monday and shipped back to me today. Haven’t received anything to say what they did though... not sure if that’s normal?
The Mk6 came back from repair, and I got around to testing it again.
http://youtu.be/tnWVV8lpJpI
Good stuff Pete is that your old Sako .243?
Nah, that .243 became a 6.5x47 lapua and then I sold it when I bought a Blaser 6.5x55... which I then soldQuote:
Originally Posted by nor-west
This rifle is my Sako 85 Finnlight .260 which I've had for about 3 years now and have no plans to change from... should've kept the .243!