Thread: Leupold Scopes are NOT worth the money....IMO

Leupold scopes are definitely quality...no doubt.
My point is that the price vs value is just not there anymore if one takes in consideration other top line scope brands.

I suppose that argument could be used for the European scope brands as well BUT the likes of Swarovski, Leica, Kahles do offer alpha glass and low light ability that is recognized as a 'step above' the USA and Japanese made scopes.

The below is my opinion of most of the top of the line scopes, and you will notice Leupold is in there (5 star and 4 star rating):

Five-Star Scopes

Kahles line (all)
Leica line (all)
Leupold VX-6 series, Mark 6, Mark 8
Meopta MeoStar series
Nightforce line
Schmidt & Bender line (all)
Sightron SV series
Steiner Nighthunter series
Swarovski Z series, X series
Vortex Razor HD series
Zeiss Victory series


Four-Star Scopes

Athlon
Bushnell Elite Tactical Series & discontinued 6500
Leupold VX-3i series, FX-3 (fixed), VX-R, VX-5HD
Meopta MeoPro series
Sightron Series III (SIII)
Steiner GS3 series
TRACT (Toric + Tekoa)
Vixen VIII series
Weaver Super Slam (discontinued)

Originally Posted by Hermitage

Leupold scopes are definitely quality...no doubt.
My point is that the price vs value is just not there anymore if one takes in consideration other top line scope brands.

I suppose that argument could be used for the European scope brands as well BUT the likes of Swarovski, Leica, Kahles do offer alpha glass and low light ability that is recognized as a 'step above' the USA and Japanese made scopes.

The below is my opinion of most of the top of the line scopes, and you will notice Leupold is in there (5 star and 4 star rating):

Five-Star Scopes

Kahles line (all)
Leica line (all)
Leupold VX-6 series, Mark 6, Mark 8
Meopta MeoStar series
Nightforce line
Schmidt & Bender line (all)
Sightron SV series
Steiner Nighthunter series
Swarovski Z series, X series
Vortex Razor HD series
Zeiss Victory series


Four-Star Scopes

Athlon
Bushnell Elite Tactical Series & discontinued 6500
Leupold VX-3i series, FX-3 (fixed), VX-R, VX-5HD
Meopta MeoPro series
Sightron Series III (SIII)
Steiner GS3 series
TRACT (Toric + Tekoa)
Vixen VIII series
Weaver Super Slam (discontinued)

Have you used all of these 'scopes?

Originally Posted by Tahr

Have you used all of these 'scopes?

No way...I'm a BOP English teacher not an Auckland property developer.

This is just my opinion based on use of a few, and the other ratings based on shooters opinions and reading.

Originally Posted by Tahr

Have you used all of these 'scopes?

He missed the latest Delta in there too @Tahr
I am sure they be rated if not such outdated list :-)

Anyway - you Leupi fans
I just listed this for a client
$1 reserve
Brand new mounted once

https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Lis...?id=2901701918

Originally Posted by Sarvo

He missed the latest Delta in there too @Tahr
I am sure they be rated if not such outdated list :-)

Ok just for you Mr @Sarvo here is an updated list (although I did have your Delta scopes listed as a 4.5 star before):

Five-Star Scopes

Athlon Optics Cronus BTR
Arken Optics EP4 (reasonable/low price for the specs)
Delta line esp 5-50x (2020 model)
Kahles line (all)
Leica line (all)
Leupold VX-6 series, Mark 6, Mark 8
Meopta MeoStar series
March line (all)
Nightforce line
Schmidt & Bender line (all)
Sightron SV series (stays in top tier)
Steiner Nighthunter series
Swarovski Z series, X series
TRACT Toric
Vixen VIII
Vortex Razor HD series
Zeiss Victory series


Four-Star-Plus Scopes

Bushnell Elite Tactical Series & discontinued 6500
Burris XTR II
Leupold VX-3i series, FX-3 (fixed), VX-R, VX-5HD (stays in 2nd tier)
Meopta MeoPro series
Sightron Series III (SIII)
Steiner GS3 series
TRACT Tekoa
Vixen VII scopes
Weaver Super Slam (discontinued)

Again this is just my opinion collected over the years from my own and feedback from other shooters. Any complaints/disagreements you can post below...but remember complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about.

Originally Posted by Hermitage

Leupold scopes are definitely quality...no doubt.
My point is that the price vs value is just not there anymore if one takes in consideration other top line scope brands.

I suppose that argument could be used for the European scope brands as well BUT the likes of Swarovski, Leica, Kahles do offer alpha glass and low light ability that is recognized as a 'step above' the USA and Japanese made scopes.

The below is my opinion of most of the top of the line scopes, and you will notice Leupold is in there (5 star and 4 star rating):

Five-Star Scopes

Kahles line (all)
Leica line (all)
Leupold VX-6 series, Mark 6, Mark 8
Meopta MeoStar series
Nightforce line
Schmidt & Bender line (all)
Sightron SV series
Steiner Nighthunter series
Swarovski Z series, X series
Vortex Razor HD series
Zeiss Victory series


Four-Star Scopes

Athlon
Bushnell Elite Tactical Series & discontinued 6500
Leupold VX-3i series, FX-3 (fixed), VX-R, VX-5HD
Meopta MeoPro series
Sightron Series III (SIII)
Steiner GS3 series
TRACT (Toric + Tekoa)
Vixen VIII series
Weaver Super Slam (discontinued)

Just going off topic for a bit, why does Bushnell seem to discontinue scopes so quickly? It really puts me off buying them.

Originally Posted by Hermitage

Leupold scopes are definitely quality...no doubt.
My point is that the price vs value is just not there anymore if one takes in consideration other top line scope brands.

I suppose that argument could be used for the European scope brands as well BUT the likes of Swarovski, Leica, Kahles do offer alpha glass and low light ability that is recognized as a 'step above' the USA and Japanese made scopes.

The below is my opinion of most of the top of the line scopes, and you will notice Leupold is in there (5 star and 4 star rating):

Five-Star Scopes

Kahles line (all)
Leica line (all)
Leupold VX-6 series, Mark 6, Mark 8
Meopta MeoStar series
Nightforce line
Schmidt & Bender line (all)
Sightron SV series
Steiner Nighthunter series
Swarovski Z series, X series
Vortex Razor HD series
Zeiss Victory series


Four-Star Scopes

Athlon
Bushnell Elite Tactical Series & discontinued 6500
Leupold VX-3i series, FX-3 (fixed), VX-R, VX-5HD
Meopta MeoPro series
Sightron Series III (SIII)
Steiner GS3 series
TRACT (Toric + Tekoa)
Vixen VIII series
Weaver Super Slam (discontinued)

Quick, add March scopes to the five star list before anyone gets upset!

Originally Posted by Hermitage

Leupold scopes are definitely quality...no doubt.
My point is that the price vs value is just not there anymore if one takes in consideration other top line scope brands.

I suppose that argument could be used for the European scope brands as well BUT the likes of Swarovski, Leica, Kahles do offer alpha glass and low light ability that is recognized as a 'step above' the USA and Japanese made scopes.

The below is my opinion of most of the top of the line scopes, and you will notice Leupold is in there (5 star and 4 star rating):

Five-Star Scopes

Kahles line (all)
Leica line (all)
Leupold VX-6 series, Mark 6, Mark 8
Meopta MeoStar series
Nightforce line
Schmidt & Bender line (all)
Sightron SV series
Steiner Nighthunter series
Swarovski Z series, X series
Vortex Razor HD series
Zeiss Victory series


Four-Star Scopes

Athlon
Bushnell Elite Tactical Series & discontinued 6500
Leupold VX-3i series, FX-3 (fixed), VX-R, VX-5HD
Meopta MeoPro series
Sightron Series III (SIII)
Steiner GS3 series
TRACT (Toric + Tekoa)
Vixen VIII series
Weaver Super Slam (discontinued)

Kind of agree except VX-5HD is same glass as the VX6HD so find it hard to be thrown down a teir. Arguably it's a better scope than the Z5s. I currently own a VX6HD, a Z5, 2 VX3i's, a Sig Whiskey5 (which I would rate up there pretty highly especially for a longer range hunter if your not stressed about weight like I tend to be.)

I did see Guncity's prices on Leupolds today and have really seen the prices ramped up the last 3 or 4 years (I'd guess due to the NZ distributor) I brought my first VX3i for 699 now they are 1099. Also the only new VX5HD I brought was $1599. Now they are $1874. So maybe that does make me think NZ importer has made them a little harder to stomach. Still think they have a fit a niche at a good price just have to shop around a bit more. Sale at shooters supplies this weekend I think