I'm still keen on this survival rifle, not so much for real use but its fun to plan up in your head or with your mates.use but just like a zombie attack and what you would do its fun to think about
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I'm still keen on this survival rifle, not so much for real use but its fun to plan up in your head or with your mates.use but just like a zombie attack and what you would do its fun to think about
Zombies aren't real and when people talk about them/guns they sound like psychopaths because they are literally fantasising about consequence-free murder of people. It's an incredibly stupid and unfunny trend that should have died out a long time ago.
Lightweight/compact pack rifles are cool for mucking around, shooting rabbits when fishing or in the riverbed when the weather is too bad for tahr hunting, carrying 'just in case I see something', etc
Still fun to make a plan and stuff, have a spot sussed out to go to all the traps to set and so on.
As Gimp says , we dont have nasty things that can eat you here so what is in your pack and what is in your head are most important .
In saying that a light colapsiable .22 is a fine thing to have along for rabbits and possums and a flame thrower and garlic for those of you who worry about Zombies and Vampires , actually for a lot of you a bright light to keep away the dark and the scary things like Possums and Hedgehogs is probably a first call .
The other side to consider of course is how much ammo do you want to carry, and here 22 sure as heck beats anything else hands down
Druid, please don't tell anyone, but I find hedgehogs especially terrifying :D They are sneaky little fcukers, look all cute and cudly, but wait until they get you cornered mate, it gets ugly real fast...
I like em, soposidly they are bad but they are just cute(more so than some evil cat) I have hedge on each side of my property and often hear them snuffling and grunting their way past my bedroom window on the way from one hedge to the other.Quote:
Originally Posted by ebf
ya VC, they do seem to like catfood ! friends of ours feed the entire neighborhoods stray cats, and during summer have a hedgie or 2 coming round late at night to steal cat pellets - had a trail cam on them for a while :D
ps, that nasty man Mr Morgan wants all of them dead too !
er, back to survival rifles ?
As for survival rifles I guess we have to ask 7mm the context of "survival rifle"
Is it just the recently coined term for ultra simple/light firearm or an actual survival tool?
You can go at least a week without food(going buy my ab(singular) I and most others could go a lot more)
If you are not injured enough to still be able to move(to pick up the wood pigeon or possum you shot) you are going to make your way out or into a recoverable position.
Survival= Water,food,shelter, warmth. excluding of course complications of injury. Food you can do without as above.
The most important survival item in NZ IMHO is the ability to light a fire.(I have been there)
Then there is a nice light compact rifle you can take when fishing or just incase, which is cool:)
Im in the Kawekas right now looking for sika with dougie and west870mc and its cooling down, dry and dusty up here.
I'm wanting a light rifle to put in my pack so i have something to smack deer while they watch me fish the ngaruroro river. The term ' survival rifle' is what the yanks call a pack rifle?
so .223?
I thought it was a nut bag preppers term:D
Pack rifle I understand:D
Why do they have to be so light, do we also all lose our ability to carry 3kg when in survival mode? whats wrong with a single shot break down in 223
In that case back to the 223 baikal break neck / take down. Chop it, and hack the stock.
Are you happy with open sights for this pack rifle?
Oh, and pls tell Dougie that rifle better have some scratches on it when it gets back to Welly :D
Don't know about the rifle, but Dougie had a good dose of scratches on the pins. :innocent:Quote:
Originally Posted by ebf
I refuse to exercise for the sake of exercise. If Im getting fat and unfit its cos this "working for the man" is eating up my time.Quote:
Originally Posted by von tempsky fan
when hunting I carry a heavy as walnut sako.
I see the point in a light "WHAT IF" pack rifle but never been introduced to fresh water fishing.
If I cant carry my 8 pound(I have no idea I just know its heavy compared some fancy mates rifles) all up of sako and scope how the hell am I going to carry meat or preferably the whole animal out?
I do see the point in a "maybe" rifle if your a fisherman,bird watcher,god Knows what.
For me I will just carry that heavy walnut stocked sako any time im legally allowed to. When the time comes that 8 or 12 pounds becomes too much I hope im in the bush somewhere............my family knows where to scatter my ashes;)
When I go rabbit shooting I tend to have the 22lr in my hands and a 223 Rem slung over the shoulders with the pack, just in case something else pops up. I don't mind a bit of weight, it helps with traction a lot of the time as I don't have the weight to push the boot cleats into the ground. Also don't get blown about quite so much by the wind. It is a lightish weight cheap mini mauser 223 mind you.
Who wants to pay sako money for a sako?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill999
While it's theoretically possible, such an infection resulting in a widespread epidemic and a 'SHTF' scenario is ludicrously unlikely, and obsessing over shooting the victims of such an unfortunate sickness makes you look like A Fucking Nutbar, because you are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tussock
So what calibre could theoretically be made the lightest?
A 223 ?
You don't need much of a stock
A 22LR I guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by 7mmsaum
But if you wanted something small with some grunt a 22 Terminator springs to mind :)
They're already here, posting about zombies on the InternetQuote:
Originally Posted by Tussock
Agreed, "zombies" seems to be a wet dream for shooters as opposed to hunters to justify their latest tacticool gear purchase.Quote:
Originally Posted by gimp
There have been numerous SHTF events around the world including events like Christchurch which demonstrate how well the rest of the community, country and world come together and help out, running round with a gun just isn't required. I would be more worried about water purification and storage devices, it takes weeks to starve to death but only days to dehydrate.
Only a second when you get bitten by a zombie
the new ACC handi rifle blackout single shot weight is 5lb would be the lightest around,its not available yet in nz, thinking of getting one myself, they are available in australia, at cleaver firearms ,queensland
Nikon P-300BLK Scope Review
I'm a hunter and a shooter and I own lots of things that could be described as tactical and I think the zombie thing is the dumbest shit. I'd refrain from generalisationsQuote:
Originally Posted by Brakelie
I have decided on a .223 with 55g Gamekings for this and will talk to Scott at SSRNZ.CO.NZ asap about an alloy receiver build.
Short barreled .223/.308 T3 or Rem 700 in an MDT LSS Chassis with folding stock adapter.
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Originally Posted by ebf
Baikal for sure, cheap enough to have as a spare or back up, accurate enough to do the business.
lol classic zombie talk, should we start inporting apc's with 50 cal machine guns on top, pack/survival rifle has a cool factor, i go tramping more than hunting would love the lightest weight posible rifle to take with me when im just tramping,
Have decided on a 223 and now would like to find a rifle thats very small and light so i can fish rivers without it bulking up my pack
I don't mind modifying something to suit.
What about one of those howa micro action.
Change stock and cut barrel to 12" add suppressor
How about a Thompson Contender? Seriously small, single shot 223. Put a pistol forend on, chop barrel to minimum length, flute barrel for extra weight savings.
Both great ideas, will look into it today
my pighunter mate has just brought a "rossi" (I know. I know) in .223, had the barrel cut down so total length is a inch over "minimum length" and suppressed it.Quote:
Originally Posted by 7mmsaum
Fitted a Tasco PDP3 red dot to it and reckons its the bees knees for getting thru the scrub etc.
Since most of his shots are 30 yards or less he say velocity loss with short barrel makes bugger all difference
It is certainly nice and short/pointable
Savage Lightweight Hunter could be considered.. 5.5lbs bare in .223. Fluted bolt, milled action, skinny barrel. Either Stainless/Synthetic, or Wood/Blue comes to same weight. Sweet wee shooters too. Feels like a .22 to carry and shoot.
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5lb and very compact.
And it's accurate and if i miss I have 29 more chances:thumbsup:
How much does it weigh with the suppressor and 30 rounds?
22 Terminator, 70 GMX at 31-3150, 4.26 lbs, :cool:
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Pig at 300 yards
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http://www.nzhuntingandshooting.co.n...minator-13685/
The barrel could be cut down to make it even more compact, currently 18" barrel, cutting it down to 11" would make over legal length :thumbsup:
Goodness knows how much velocity you would lose ?
But will it fit in a very little back pack :D Attachment 43629
She took the little AR up the hill and I took the deer.
She's 4.
