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What is a relatively good and easy to come by action that I could do a decent short magnum build with? Something that has plenty of options when it comes to sticks and triggers etc would be nice aswell. Who would have them? I am also a left hander aswell.
Thanks
Rem 700 will probably have the most options, unless you want to go for a Rem 700 clone such as a stiller or similar. Rem 700 short action will probably need the magazine lengthening to get the most out of the cartridge in terms of seating depth.
You could use a Tikka action but I'm pretty sure Greg Duley doesn't like building short magnums on a Tikka because the action diameter/barrel diameter is a bit smaller and can get pressure problems and sticky extraction.
Some guys like the Savage actions because you can do most yourself (at least in the US) with pre-chambered barrels and an action spanner and the appropriate go/no go gauges. But the parts aren't quite as easy to get in NZ.
What calibre you going for?
Remington have released the Model 7 line againQuote:
Originally Posted by silentscope
$1500 nzd
One of the chamberings they offer is 300 wsm.
Just a barrel swap gives you whatever you want
Was leaning towards a 7mm wsm of something like that or something else with easy to obtain brass and data etc.
So these model 7 remington are they the 700s?
No
The seven has a shorter rear bridge and larger ejection port
Model 7 is shorter than Rem 700. The length has been removed from the rear action bridge. The magazine length is the same as a Rem 700 short action. Barrel thread is the same as a Rem 700. Trigger is similar, the bolt release is different.
HRE does a LH Rem700 clone.
Short action Remington rifles may struggle to mag feed the 7mmwsm when loaded with high bc bullets in a standard throat chambering. A 7mmsaum may be a wiser choice.
Alternatively, you can mill out the mag and gain some magazine size like I've done to mine. It's not that hard to do, and allows mag feeding...but the cases are so fat you can only get a couple in the mag. For me that's fine, its for long range hunting...not mob shooting goats.
Or use a long action to begin with :-)
Here's a link to me modifying a rem700 to fit 7mmwsm with long 162amax projectiles.
http://www.nzhuntingandshooting.co.n...ke-over-25341/
Kj
i just come across your model 7 in another thread, thats a bloody beaut looking rifle pretty much what i was hoping to end up with, what kind of work and $$$ was that one if you dont mind me asking?Quote:
Originally Posted by stug
Just buy this 7 SAUM Remington Model Seven | Trade MeQuote:
Originally Posted by silentscope
I have several Model 7's and love them, one in 7mm SAUM which is awesome!
i had a read of your makeover thread during my lunch break today you did a nice job of it. was your wsm a short action to start? i thought of the wsm because you can squeeze that little bit extra out of it with those bigger pills, iv got no issues milling out bits and pieces to make it better i just need a good base to start with.Quote:
Originally Posted by kimjon
Model 7 comes in LH now?
lovely rifle there, only problem is id have to shoot it backwards to have the action on the correct side haha.Quote:
Originally Posted by GWH
im searching and searching and cant find one that is, i think weve forgotten im after a lefty actionQuote:
Originally Posted by kiwijames
I run the 162 Amax seated right out long to touch the lands, way to long for mag, but its no drama single feeding them as a long range rifle. I do have some 150 SGK loads at a shorter OAL that fit the mag for when i want to have a couple sitting in the mag for 'spook and shoot' when walking in/out etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by silentscope
Oh yeah bugger!Quote:
Originally Posted by silentscope
Stock is $595, fluting barrel is about $350, fluting bolt is $150, can't remember the cost of the muzzle brake and threading muzzle. Light weight firing pin and $130?Quote:
Originally Posted by silentscope
I think Savage do an action/trigger group only, no problem with lefty actions....might have to wait 6 months or so to be delivered if not in stock.
would it be worth doing one on a tikka? theyre ugly as hell but are easy to get hold of from anything else iv looked and asked for. would a long action tikka be needed for the long seating of the heavier bullets in short mag? or can you chop a short actions magazine etc enough for them to work?
Unfortunately for a wsm case or similar width cases there are only one size from tikka. I have a 7-300wsm that I have lengthened the mag to fit 180 bergers in. IIRC my oal is 81.6mm. I just had to grind the bolt stop back and it feeds easy as.Quote:
Originally Posted by silentscope
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Yep, I would go with a tikka as well if I were you. They make rifle with wsm cases, so that is not an issue.
oh well that makes life easier then did you start with a 7mm wsm and ream it out bigger? or did you have to re barrel itQuote:
Originally Posted by puku
Nah it started life as a 270wsm. But I shot the barrel out. I went for the 300 parent case rather than 7mm wsm for the longer neck. I'm getting a modest 856m/s or 2810fps with it. Sticky bolt above that when the weather is warmQuote:
Originally Posted by silentscope
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I have two model 7's the trouble with them is that there is no way of lengthening the mag box, you cannot take meat out of the front of the magazine slot and the trigger group is too close at the back to allow any machining there so you cannot fit a wyatts box. The upshot is that even with .308 sized cases , 7mm-08 and .260 it is difficult to get bullets to seat out close to the lands and feed out of the mag unless they are blunt bullets. Tuning of loads via OAL is not as easy as for longer actions. I found with my 7-08 best accuracy was closer to the lands than I could feed out of the mag box so I shave a couple of mm off the plastic tips of 140G nosler BT's with a meplat trimmer. I wildcatted my 7mm saum so I run a 200 thou short case, this works well as I can seat the 162 amax well out to avoid any donut issues and touch the lands and still feed from the mag. When I eventually rebarrel my 7-08 I will go 6.5 creedmore or 7m creedmore AI to take advantage of the short case, to get a load that can be seated to the lands and feed out of the mag.
Plenty of 7mm saums run good as in model 7s, if it's that much of a worry get the chamber set back so you can find the lands, that would be an easier option than wildcatting the case
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I just single feed my Model 7 7SAUM with 162 amax seated out. I have a mag length load of 140gr accubond for spook and shoot hunting. I haven't had an issue with single feeding yet, all one shot kills.
even with only 100 thou of free bore (very short) you still can't seat amaxes in a model 7 7 saum and reach the lands, if you are even mildly ocd about reloading then generally you mess with seating depthQuote:
Plenty of 7mm saums run good as in model 7s, if it's that much of a worry get the chamber set back so you can find the lands, that would be an easier option than wildcatting the case
I have been known to miss or maim one load per rifle and a full mag for me
looking for a savage 12 target action, anyone know of one?
My 6.5mm SAUM is built on a Remington 700 short action.
Nicest thing about the Remington 700 I find is the huge range of aftermarket parts available. On my build, the only original Remington parts were the receiver, recoil lug and magazine spring / magazine follower. The bolt, trigger, bottom metal, magazine box and bolt release were all custom, and it was no big effort to get them.
I was wanting to do something a little bit special in my build.
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