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Think it as Tahr who recounted an incident of ammunition being discharged by battery. My mate this afternoon had his hunting pack on the back of his truck with some loose ammo and unbeknownst to him also a Maxtoch 18650 battery. Got out and grabbed his pack and BOOM a round goes off just missing him. Badly shaken is probably an understatement as he rang and told me immediately afterwards. Very lucky.
YIIIIKES scary stuff never heard of that. Thanks will be more aware now
No guarantees but unlikely to seriously injure anything but your underpants.
And seriously doubt it could ever be fatal.
That's the sort of thing that will give you nightmares. Lithium batteries need to be treated with a lot of respect.
Loose ammo isn't ideal either.
Aside from the fact that I never carry loose ammo, always in my belt pouch or in the factory box, nor lith bats, spare ones always in a purpose designed bat holder, how exactly did this happen?
Lithium batteries I treat with huge respect at all times.
F that!
YEAH NAH...round exploding close to your vital bits could do you some serious harm.... it is after all a small explosionQuote:
Originally Posted by Finnwolf
Thanks Te Rei - that's a timely reminder. Important one..
I hear you but I was considering the event happened in a hunting pack.Quote:
Originally Posted by Micky Duck
I recall in Guns & Ammo where a 30-06 round was ‘cooked-off’ on an electric element.
The round was covered by a cardboard box and none of the bits of the cartridge penetrated the cardboard.
My 2-cents worth!:yaeh am not durnk:
I had a 308 round explode in the breech of a finnwolf one day due to the firing pin being proud and when I went to eject the full round it went off and a piece of brass went in below my right tit and exited out the back muscle that goes down the side of your ribs. Didn't hurt but my ears were certainly ringing! Once I noticed blood dripping down my leg I thought I better investigate and ended up at ED. I told the male nurse that it was a workshop accident as I didn't know what they would do if they thought a firearm was involved. The nurse turned out to be a target shooter and reloader so I came clean and he put workshop accident down as the cause. I had an xray and no metal was located in me so a couple of stitches and off home. It did hurt the next few days while healing. If that brass had hit an artery it could well have been very serious, but lucky for me just a few veins were hit, so I think keep your batteries packed away, and your ammo as well.
of the exploding round and the burning battery, the battery is of far more danger to your long term health. Current lithium ion battery technology uses cobalt to improve longevity and ironically add stability to the charge/discharge cycle. It is a heavy metal and is readily absorbed into the body's organs if you breath in the fumes from a burning battery. Already there are fire fighters in Aussie that are now permanently disabled from fighting EV fires without sufficient PPE.
Wow! As a Finnwolf owner I’ll bear that in mind!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ruger7mm
Best get rid of the old antique.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Finnwolf
Here's how it could be fatal... If this happens in the wild and your pack catches fire thanks to the combination of lithium and ammunition, and you lose your food, gear and PLB, you have no second chances on your trek home.
The solution?
https://www.trademe.co.nz/4103909457
:P:DQuote:
Originally Posted by zimmer
How about your ammo in a holder and a bit of lecki tape across terminals on the spare battery? Not really that hard. I seem to manage.
We used to set .22s off with a hammer on an anvil. Place side down and flattening the primmer end. Projectile would bounce around the trusses,Quote:
Originally Posted by Finnwolf
Like a fast bumble bee
How the hell did you live to be your young age!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Maca49
Same way no helmet on a bike seat belt in a car:XD: the list goes on and it’s a bloody long one:O_O::XD:Quote:
Originally Posted by Lentil
It was the lack of Karen's distracting them :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Lentil
Do that on an anvil with a slice of gelly - magic!Quote:
Originally Posted by Maca49
Remember making fishing line launchers out of plastic waste. Pipe. Then filling it up with stones at the beach and blasting possums out of the trees. Most in the camp ground didn’t even blink…. Some German tourist on the other hand:O_O: did you ever hear the saying “Don’t mention the war”!:XD::XD:
They came around fast though when we gave em a go…some budding young Rommels right there :thumbsup:
Hi Finnwolf
The cause of the explosion was the hardened metal cap that is on the firing pin that the hammer strikes. It is held in place by a pin which had come out and the cap was loose and became wedged sideways, and when I cycled the action to extract a live round the cap was jammed and forced the firing pin forward which hit the detonator of the round being held by the bolt in the breech and it went off. I had just loaded some rounds for the Finnwolf and was cycling them through to ensure they could be ejected as the Finnwolf has a small ejection port and if you seat you projectiles out a little bit they cannot be ejected. The explosion blew the mag out the bottom, and I found the projectile on the concrete as well, the danger is not the projectile but the pieces of brass shrapnel.
How do you get them out if too long? Short of stripping the action? Or firing.
I have the same issue with my Barnard P actions. With a 284 cartridge, and even a long seated 308, if for some reason the shot is not taken, because you get into a no mans land situation with the loading port, the only way to extract the loaded round is to pull the bolt completely out with the round hooked on the extractor claw. Easy peezy but not a simple option on your rifle.
@Ruger7mm - I found out about the short ejection port the hard way when using a 7.62 drill round when trying to fix an issue of poor feeding out of the magazine.
Had to use a cleaning rod and a block of wood to push the tip of the projectile down enough to get the round out (about 2mm)
PS your explosion was probably exacerbated by being relatively confined.