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    Machine Gun Belt permit to own

    Had a call from firearms registry fulla yesterday. Apparently a machine gun belt (Metal,cloth or strip) is considered a prohibited magazine. You need a permit.

    I cannot find this in black or white or defined in the arms act.

    It is my view that it is not required and if deemed so they need to issue a notice to the public as many many folk posses them.

    What are your thoughts?


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    A ‘prohibited magazine’??
    How ridiculous but I await someone to support or deny that.
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    By definition it's not a magazine - but that does mean that virtually every Cadets unit now needs to replace at least one cadet's trophy and every aviation museum is now holding prohibited items along with another hurdle for every RSA etc etc. Just thinking about that in my head, the numbers of places that have those and the numbers of people that have a length of linked dummy 5.56 or 7.62 is absolutely huge. The amount of data needed to be added to the registry, or people paid out and made to surrender their decorations - not actually sure how that will work as to the best of my knowledge linked/dummy belts were getting sold off out of the army surplus type shops as 'no licence reqd'...
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    With the recent and past data breaches Id be wary. It could be anyone doing a bit of fishing. Id be wanting to see someone in person about it, not at your place

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    Yes so to add more context I was registering my stuff online and the have a section for prohibited mags. It lists options from a drop down box here are some pics to support the confusion.


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    Oh my lord. If a belt of linked .762 constituted a prohibited magazine, would that mean that there would need to be a unique identifier / serial number on every link?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rushy View Post
    Oh my lord. If la belt of linked .762 constituted a prohibited magazine, would that mean that there would need to be a unique identifier / serial number on every link?
    Yes that would be my understanding. We know how daft it all is so we could expect such a daft requirement


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    Quote Originally Posted by Burb122 View Post
    Yes that would be my understanding. We know how daft it all is so we could expect such a daft requirement


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    I have long thought that we need a “Fuck me dead” emoji for just such occasions.
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    to me that is like the tick box at airport that asks...are you a terrorist???
    fishing pure and simple.
    to take that to the extreme a gattling guns hopper was just that...a tapered funnel as such.....
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    A friend has an email from rego team that stripper clips for a M1 Garand ( 8 rounds ) are not a prohibited magazine.
    But cloth belts are ?
    Crazy stuff
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frogfeatures View Post
    A friend has an email from rego team that stripper clips for a M1 Garand ( 8 rounds ) are not a prohibited magazine.
    But cloth belts are ?
    Crazy stuff
    Using the FSA logic (?), it's probably because a belt can hold more than 10 rounds, whereas a Garand en bloc clip holds 8. When will this madness end?

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    My pocket holds about 150 22lr rounds, better register it....
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    I totally see how a belt is considered magazine, and struggle to see why others don't?

    It stores bullets to be fed into the action automatically, same function/outcome entirely as a box mag just a different style.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frogfeatures View Post
    A friend has an email from rego team that stripper clips for a M1 Garand ( 8 rounds ) are not a prohibited magazine.
    But cloth belts are ?
    Crazy stuff
    I mean, I sold en-bloc clips in the buy-back and got good money for them so that kinda muddies the water.

 

 

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