Thread: Maniatis Suppressors

Any update @stagstalker? Keen to see what they are like compared to DPT.

Do they disassemble? what are they like inside?

@308mate I've had the chance to fondle a couple of Manniatis cans and take a look at the gubbings.

It's a pretty conventional design with a couple of twists. I don't believe they can be taken apart once assembled. There's a big flat internal muzzle break to send gas back into the isolator tube. Then going forward there's a couple of baffles just like you'd expect. Where it differs is the brake and baffles are all machined out of one piece of 7075 though and placed inside of a nice carbon wrapped tube. The brake and baffles don't have a lot of meat to them and small amount of material used leaves it very much hollow with lots of volume for gas relative to the size.

I expect therefore they are as quiet as is claimed and the Rod & Rifle test is probably so out of date that it's meaningless now. Ultimately I decided against a Manniatis suppressor for myself though because 7075, no matter how you coat it, anodize it, whatever... isn't going to last nearly as long as SS or Ti and I was happy to accept a bit more weight for extra longevity/high volume shooting. I got something a bit more heavy duty.

They'd be great for rifles that don't have much muzzle blast. 223's, 300 blackouts etc. and for alpine rifles which aren't doing huge numbers of rounds. Anything you would happily run a DPT on without a SS baffle, I'd happily run a Manniatis suppressor on.

@Pommy Thanks for that mate. What did you end up getting?

I am considering one for a 18" 308 that will be used just for hunting so not heaps of shooting but I find it hard to commit without any actual data of their improvements. I wouldn't really run a stainless baffle unless I had to because I just don't want the extra weight, I'd rather just add two normal baffles on a DPT for that weight penalty and replace them when they wear out (so the 7075 bit probably isn't as relevant to me). That being said I suppose that the beauty of a DPT is you can replace the baffles as they go and see how it is holding up.

Doesn't sound great that you can't disassemble the Maniatis suppressors as you can't really see how it is holding up especially with your comments around how thin the material in the brake and baffle is.

I think the thing that everyone wants to see is some hard evidence of what the current generation of Maniatis suppressors are like compared to other options like DPT, Hardy etc. It is all very well to claim your suppressors are some of the quietest in the market now with a new design but actual DB reduction would be really useful to know.

I'd venture that is going to be a sticking point for a lot of people including me, though I know @stagstalker will give a no BS assessment.

Something like using the equipment this test that DPT did in this thread would be ideal https://www.nzhuntingandshooting.co....testing-37510/

Originally Posted by Pommy

@308mate I've had the chance to fondle a couple of Manniatis cans and take a look at the gubbings.

It's a pretty conventional design with a couple of twists. I don't believe they can be taken apart once assembled. There's a big flat internal muzzle break to send gas back into the isolator tube. Then going forward there's a couple of baffles just like you'd expect. Where it differs is the brake and baffles are all machined out of one piece of 7075 though and placed inside of a nice carbon wrapped tube. The brake and baffles don't have a lot of meat to them and small amount of material used leaves it very much hollow with lots of volume for gas relative to the size.

I expect therefore they are as quiet as is claimed and the Rod & Rifle test is probably so out of date that it's meaningless now. Ultimately I decided against a Manniatis suppressor for myself though because 7075, no matter how you coat it, anodize it, whatever... isn't going to last nearly as long as SS or Ti and I was happy to accept a bit more weight for extra longevity/high volume shooting. I got something a bit more heavy duty.

They'd be great for rifles that don't have much muzzle blast. 223's, 300 blackouts etc. and for alpine rifles which aren't doing huge numbers of rounds. Anything you would happily run a DPT on without a SS baffle, I'd happily run a Manniatis suppressor on.

@maniatisgunsmiths

I went with a Greystone 3K and paid a little extra to get a Ti brake to bring the weight down to 406g. My DPT MkII with a bonus SS baffle weighs 385g and is a bit larger. I'd estimate the 3K is a smidge louder (more mass in a smaller unit, so figures) but it sure soaks up the heat from long strings of fire with ease whereas the DPT is getting hot to the touch after 3-4. I can't take the 3K apart but I'm pretty sure it'll survive the heat death of the universe, let alone whatever I can throw at it.

Have got the can, first impressions on the 260 (19” barrel) are good but I am yet to shoot it etc. Will provide more feedback in due course

Originally Posted by stagstalker

Have got the can, first impressions on the 260 (19” barrel) are good but I am yet to shoot it etc. Will provide more feedback in due course

@stagstalker that is a sweet looking rifle. Is that one of the Hi Tec stocks? what Swaro? For some reason I thought you said you were going NX8.

Is that Maniatis painted or does it have a cover on it?

Looking forward to your feedback on the suppressor.

@308mate the stock is an unbranded trial for another forum member who is getting into making them. Swaro is a 3.5-18x44 Z5 with 4w reticle and two turn moa turret with zero stop removed. The NX8 coming is for my rem mag. Suppressor is painted I assume, it’s a matt black type surface. I used to use weka covers but on a large suppressor they add a bit of weight so moved away from them and just run them bare now.

Is the rear bush removable/ able to be changed out? Or is it integral

Originally Posted by Mackattack

Is the rear bush removable/ able to be changed out? Or is it integral

I’m away at the moment and can’t check but I think it’s integral? Someone else may be able to confirm

Originally Posted by stagstalker

I’m away at the moment and can’t check but I think it’s integral? Someone else may be able to confirm

Rear bush threads out so will be able to use on same or smaller caliber rifle with same thread with another bush

Thank you. Definitely might be worth a look then. Want to bring the balance back on my 7mm08 so a lighter suppressor and 2" off barrel might do the trick

Originally Posted by Mackattack

Thank you. Definitely might be worth a look then. Want to bring the balance back on my 7mm08 so a lighter suppressor and 2" off barrel might do the trick

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@stagstalker have you had a chance to try it yet? Any good?

Originally Posted by 308mate

@stagstalker have you had a chance to try it yet? Any good?

Still away working