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Local gun shop is having a clean out. They’ve got a brand new suppressed, scoped M18 SS Mauser in 223 for a $1000.
Has anyone had much experience with them? I’ve spent too much time reading the 223 on deer thread and want to have a play. What kind of projectile choice would I be governed to by the 1:10 twist?
I sold my 1:12 Tikka a few years ago but was always wanting to play with some heavier pills.
Cheers
I've got one cut down to 15inchs, love it for goats and fallow out to 250meters with 55gr hornady sp.
The trigger is slightly better than a tikka.
The 3 position safety has caught me out a few times, so only use x2 positions.
I feel the M18 are a quality rifle, that I went out and brought another in 7mmRM. At that price I'd grab it.
I don't reload but have used factory fiochhi 50gr and 55gr Vmax but the hornady training ammo in 55gr sp is what I use the most
Couple of threads on these rifles I think that may help:
https://www.nzhuntingandshooting.co....ny-good-99814/
https://www.nzhuntingandshooting.co....-cheapy-79797/
https://www.nzhuntingandshooting.co....ser-m18-66620/
Personally, I've had a Mauser M12 and loved it.
At that money, suppressed and scoped, I reckon just do it.
Should be able to run the Sierra 65gr game king in the 10 twist, they generally shoot very well and perform very well on deer.
That is a hell of a package for the money!
In my experience, 1-10 twist is great with 55/64/65 gr soft points. Maybe 68/69 gr hollow point match. Longer/heavier/tipped/streamlined copper projectiles need a 1-7 or 1-8 twist.
It would also work with the 70 grain Speer sp - which aren't slippy, but REALLY work well.
I’ll have it my hot little hands today.
I’ve never reloaded for a small rifle. What’s the go to for brass, primers etc? 2206H seems to be the powder of choice although I do have some 2208 sitting at home.
I’ll grab some of the bulk Hornady soft Point ammo for mucking round with.
Has anyone got any 65 gr Gamekings they’d part with? Seems to be a common mention on a lot of threads to do with slower twist 223 for use on deer. I also see the 50 - 55 gr TTSX mentioned quite often as well.
I bought 65s GK from Shooters world in Gore a fortnight ago, he gad a big stack of them. Im happy to sell you a box direct if you like though. $85. Cheers
I have just revisited my 65gr load.
It is 25.5gr 2206h fed small rifle primer lapua brass 10 tho jump to the lands.
It shoots very very well, I was running it at 25.7gr but have found 25.5gr to shoot best.
Hunting and outdoor supplies show some in stock
All sorted. Thanks @Tentman for the offer but they had some out back at the store.
Sonic suppressor and Crimson Trace?? scope.
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They also had 300win mag Carbonlite for $4700, Howa M1100 scoped and suppressed for $600, Rem mag X bolt for $1000
Is that the stainless, or cerakote version? Seems like a cracking bargain at that!
Stainless. Yea that’s what I thought.Quote:
Originally Posted by JoelA
Give it a crack tomorrow over chronie, see what the ADI factory ammo does
Keep us posted please, thinking to swap my slow twist 22.250 for one or rebarrel to a Valkyrie.
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Good enough for this fella.
55gr SP ADI ammo
On paper, adjusted close. Then a 3 shot group that is bloody fine by me.
Magazine is shit to load but you can’t win them all. Trigger beautiful. Interesting to see if barrel speeds up at all.
Job done.
Most excellent!
Looks like the scope tracks ok. They seem to have a good rep.
If the 65's group like that you should be happy and the deer very unhappy.
Cripes, for $1k that has to be the best deal ever.
Thats a bargain,well done and enjoy.Quote:
Originally Posted by McNotty
Took it out today with some reloads. All but one group was with BM2, apart from the best group of the lot which was a sample from Tahr that was 2206H.
Was the first time using CCI primers and I had three misfires, so a mixture of 3 and 4 shot groups. Unsure whether it’s the harder primers or I didn’t seat them correctly.
Feel like I wasn’t shooting the flashest today but who knows.
First lot are 65gr GKs and second lot are labelled as per projectile. Loaded up to 0.2 gr over max in the GKs and saw no issues with pressure.
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For the sake of useless information, Mauser recommends 5 newton metres as the prescribed action screw torque on the M18. The cause of the misfires may be the grease inside the bolt. Mauser are very, very, very generous with the grease on the firing pin spring! I had a couple of misfires in mine with hard primers in surplus military ball but once I cleaned out the grease and lubricated things lightly with Break Free then there were no further issues even with the hard primers in the military ball.
Thanks mate. I did notice the grease when I pulled apart. I’ll clean some of it out. Tightened mine to 40ish inch pounds so I’m on the money there then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Krameranzac
Bringing this thread back up, just picked one of these in .308. Want to run some factory ammo first before using handloads. I have some handloads left over from the rifle I just sold that are middle of the range so should be good to go on them once sighted in with factory first.
I’m loving it. Bolt is smooth as smooth, trigger just as good. Magazine…..meh you get the hang of it. Doesn’t worry me an extra 10 seconds to load. Seems to shoot pretty well too. Little bit too long in length with suppressor so it’ll probably lose a couple inches at some stage.Quote:
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