two mates use them on pig rifles...from what Ive seen..great to 50 yards...but not 100% convinced they would be ideal in dimlit conditions with obscured target...even a 3-4x scope is only just enough in that senario. but ideal for a quick snap shot that is definate..AND if they covered in water yo ucan still use red dot with both eyes open.... the other eye sees target and BRAIN puts the dot on it.
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