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I've just finished load development with my 260, I ended up mounting a conquest dl on it, went to range/validate the drop at 400 yesterday and get velocity. It gave me a fright how easy it was using metric adjustments instead of moa.
I'm gonna need another...
As far as milrad scopes what are the guys on here using? Budget would be between 1-2k. Exposed turrets. 3-12 , 3-15 etc
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Leupold have just released a milrad version of the vx5hd in the link below, don’t know how long until they will be available here though.
https://www.leupold.com/reticles/reticle-htmr-205
Yip like milk scopes myself.
In your price range all I can think of is a Vortex PST $1998 at Broncos sports Tauranga
Greetings Cameron,
Having studied Physics in my last year of High School (1965) in SI Metric and Mechanics the following year in feet and pounds I was utterly convinced of the superiority of the metric system at an early age. Milli radians, correct abbreviation mrad allows easy scope dial corrections an intermediate ranges as you appear to have discovered. Metric Leupold scopes at least are calibrated in mrads and the knobs are so marked. Milrad is a corruption of two units, the mrad and the Mil. The Mil is an adaption of the mrad for military use and is about 2% smaller. As there are an odd number of mrads in a complete circle, something that gun layers couldn't tolerate. Most who have tried mrad based scopes, especially those with first focal plane reticles won't go back. I'm one of them
Regards Grandpamac
I would agree at this point, I've always dialled in moa and learned that way but after 1 range session yesterday in mrad using the metric system it was pretty apparent to me anyway, how much easier it is. I now, dont want the issue if bouncing back and forth and will have the rangefinder set to meters rather than yards. Tempted to buy a duplicate scope of this one and be done with itQuote:
Originally Posted by grandpamac
ffp or sfp?
Really liking my Ahtlon 4-16 midas tac.
great turrets and a capped windage, dodnt think i would hunt again with exposed windage.
This scope is sfp. Same as you I prefer capped windage but lockable exposed turret
Very happy with my FFP mrad Vortex PST gen 2 - 3x15. Only Scope I own that you can trust the dialing. Only concern is FFP scopes are heavier 28 ounces.
The VX5hd in MRAD would be a great Mil/Mil hunting scope, being SFP and having capped windage and locking elevation.
The Viper PST Gen 2 is a awesome scope, but non-locking turrets and FFP may not suit your usage.
From what I can see the vx5 will have a mils based reticle but be 1/4moa increments on the dial still? I dont use hold over reticles and prefer to dial
Listed as .1 mil dials on the leupold website with the mil reticle.Quote:
Originally Posted by cameronjackwhite
Dont ever buy a scope that is mil/moa - its the easiest way to get it all wrong. Either mil/mil or moa/moa
Awesome couldnt see that. Might be time to order oneQuote:
Originally Posted by NZShoota
Agreed and I can do both, just trying to bounce from my mrad scope to my moa I can see me cocking something up at one point or another. Whether it be the rangefinder or an increment in strelok. Just trying to keep everything uniformQuote:
Originally Posted by Mauser308
The 2 important things with FFP -
- At low magnification your Reticle will be hard to see, helps heaps to have illumination.
- At large magnification your reticle magnifies so you will need an extremely fine Reticle , - a tiny gap or a very fine dot.
I quite like my IOR valdada 2.5x10x42. But I was i bought the illuminated model.
bit different from the usual brands but so far had a good run with it. Newer models may have the features you're looking for.
It's mil reticle and from memory half moa clicks. Newer models are Mil/Mil.
I use the mil dot reticle for quick range finding and hold over. other wise I have my ballistic app set up for half moa clicks.
It all depends on the design of the reticle. I have a Burris veracity 2-10x42 ffp, the reticle side branches are thicker externally so that at 2 power you have a decent reticle in your field of view. Particularly useful for low light conditions shots.
As you increase the magnification to 10 the ballistic reticle appears better for those longer range shots and the side branches are thinner.
Just a clever design.
No, a ffp scope is not necessarily heavier. I have a 2x8x32 ffp ,1" tube which is as light if not lighter than similar sfp scope of the same power range.
With the development of long range shooting and of the "tactical" market, specially post 2000, people had the impression that the bigger and heavier the scope, the better and the more robust it was. The manufacturers have also pushed in that direction .
I got one of the first Longrange leupold scope with 30mm tube and side focus in 2000. A few years latter, the 34mm tubes entered the market. IOR valdada came up with some monstruosity of scopes.35mm tubes and then even 40mm tubes. Zeiss had a 72mm objective scope!
Look at the weight of a vortex razor 2 : 48.5onces =1.375 kg!
Leupold and march seems to get back down in weight compared to what the competition offers, even in ffp.
A month ago was the time to order one.Quote:
Originally Posted by cameronjackwhite
With the NZ dollar having tanked against the USD it's likely going to be considerably more expensive now that the world has gone crazy.
