It looks like Hayes and assoc might have what I am looking for.
I want to be able to remove them in camp quietly as I don't like to leave a charge in for a long period of time.
And they are bloody noisy when you are in a small hunting area with good animal numbers.
I'm just ticking off a few boxes to be able to just take along the muzzleloader when hunting with mates who have conventional rifles.
Its not like you all need to be able to hit them at 500 plus meters.
And I have a few fly ins planned with visitors in the next few months and I don't really need to be shooting anything unless its a bit of a challenge
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