Thread: New S&B scope

Originally Posted by BRADS

Like toyota Hilux, Honda quads might not be amazing, but those that have them no, they won't let you down.

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Honda and stihl mate not the first one

Originally Posted by littlemorepork

Bagheera, what do you mean by market themselves?

"They sell themselves" is a colloquial saying meaning they are very desirable and either are so well known to customers or so good and obviously superior when customers handle them that a salesman doesn't need to persuade or encourage the customer, nor is any advertising needed to tell people the brand is available. Examples in NZ are Anshutz, Sako, Tikka, Leupold, Zeiss, Norinco, CZ, SWFA, Air Arms, Remington. Examples of brands needing vigorous advertising in NZ are Athlon, German Precision Optics, Burris, Ruger (except the 10/22), Minox, Chiappa, Tippman, Vixen, Stoeger. Simply asking a question about a product or mentioning it online is sometimes a soft form of advertising. I'm not sure if the phrase is used in other English speaking countries of just NZ. Your English seems pretty good. I thought you might be an ex-pat.

Could I ask whether Docter scopes are well regarded in Europe ? They are very uncommon here and the name doesn't sound very promising in English.

@Bagheera
Thank you very much for your comprehensive explanation.
I didn‘t get it in the first place as we use the term „sell themselves“ instead of market themselves.
Docter products are regarded to range in the midfield like Meopta, Minox and the like.
I have three Zenith scopes and can‘t fault them.They are reliable and robust.
As second hand they are in a price bracket of about 1700 to 1900 NZ roughly. So not too expensive
if you don‘t want the latest gear.
Back to Docter - yeah sounds a bit odd in English, doesn‘t it.
Here you find a bit of history about the company:
https://de.noblex-e-optics.com/en/pa...olgsgeschichte

Expat - don‘t I wish to be a Kiwi!
I have to be content with visiting!

cheers

Originally Posted by Tahr

That range idea used to be built into vx2s

I believe the tasco 30-30 reticle was first to market the idea...early 80s if not late 70s

Thanks for that link @littlemorepork. So, it was a Herr Docter who gave his name to the linecof scopes rather than a PhD engineer as you often see in German companies. Interesting they were a subsidiary of Zeiss.

Originally Posted by Dreamer

This looks like a pretty decent scope for hunting from them

https://www.schmidtundbender.de/en/p...8x42-meta.html


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It’s slightly more more compact in the flesh than a Z6 or V6 3-18 from the other Euros. Tactile clicks, zero stop and two clicks below zero to get to the stop.
Awesome reticle.

B