Am looking to upgrade my scope from a vx freedom. budget is around the $1000 mark, pretty keen on the vx3i 4.5-14x40 cds. Iv only dealt with leupolds, any other options i should consider? Will shoot out to 500 max with this scope. Cheers guys.
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Am looking to upgrade my scope from a vx freedom. budget is around the $1000 mark, pretty keen on the vx3i 4.5-14x40 cds. Iv only dealt with leupolds, any other options i should consider? Will shoot out to 500 max with this scope. Cheers guys.
The new Burris signature HD 3-15x44 at $1199 may suit? As they have only just been released it will be interesting to see how the glass stacks up against the vx3i.
The 4.5-14 has shit eye relief and is a bit much at the bottom end if you are in heavy bush IMO. Those burris sound really good, spoken to a man in the know who told me people are playing with them and canceling their vx5 orders. The 2-10 is $900 and will do everything you need if you are only shooting 500m.
Not always the best to go with what you know. Good to take a risk sometimes, that is how I discovered sightron which is one of the best scopes I have ever ownedQuote:
Originally Posted by mimms2
VX3 3.5-10 with CDS on trade me now with good price. This is the one. I had a 4.5-14 and as above it is hard to use. Get bidding now
Am shooting deer, tahr, cham ect. Happy out to 350 with current scope holding over but keen to go out past 400 if ever needed and yes would ideally dial as have used holdover all my life and keen to learn a different skill. Cheers.Quote:
Originally Posted by mimms2
Will look into the new burris range cheers.
Also considering just going with the 10x power vx3 as have heard some bad things about the eye relief and brightness of the 14x.
Ive got a VX3i 4.5 - 14 x 40
CDS cm / 100m click
Pro
Accurate. Good groups on paper.
Dials well. Exact at 25 cm and at 50cm (5.0 mRad) it moved 48.5 cm.
This was for a one off movement of 50cm. Happened both with vertical and horizontal dials. The next two shots in each case were closer to 49.5 cm so it may help to dial past and then back. It was easy to dial up and get shots in the middle of the target at 600 yd last weekend. The adjustment is “60cm” ie 6 mRad which will be plenty for most deer/ tahr calibres out to 500m.
Eye relief is good. About one finger width more than my S&B. At 14x.
Light weight. Smallest lightest dialling scope available with parallax. This is why I got it. Compromises in other areas but eeight was the key for me.
Cons
Eyebox is fussy with the small exit pupil at 14x and only 40mm. Needs a well placed cheek rest for best use.
Field of view cones in below 5x .
Dials do turn a bit while being carried. Often 3 or 5 cm out. Agent says no solution available. Zero stop version may partially help.
Second focal plane so if you try to use a holdover ballistic reticle you’ll always be on the back foot. You have to dial and it can do that well.
Expensive to get with non standard metric turrets and the reticle I wanted. If on a budget you’ll need to phone hard to find one set up the way you like or look second hand- they do come up at times.
When something is really good its easier to see the few imperfections.
This is the best light weight mountain hunting scope currently available in my opinion.
For general use and if weight, size and cost aren’t so critical the VX5 would be a better scope.
I got a VX5 2-10 firedot not to long ago, I find it a very good scope, and the mag range plenty enough for what you want, but the Burris probably would have got the nod if available at the time. Worth checking them outQuote:
Originally Posted by superdiver
Anyone had a look at the new burris range yet?? Rang a h&f shop up and down the road either side of me today one had them coming in in next few days, very good to deal with, the other did not know what i was talking about, never heard of the scope before (its in there latest magazine) couldnt find on computer, useless....as they always are. Hope to get into the 1st shop i dealt with for a play in the next week or so.
If you're still keen on the vx3i 4.5-14x40 cds flick me a PM as I have one for sale. Has worked well for me, repeatable dialling out to 700m on my 308. Just looking to turn my 308 into a close-up/bush rifle now so after less magnification.
I’ve fit a Burris veracity like new, 2-10x42 and I’ve shit it out to 600m.. selling for 950 slightly negotiable
That's got to be a world distance record... :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan85
Do these new Burris scope have an illuminated reticule option?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan85
Cheers mate but i think im still set on the leupold. Thanks for offer tho.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan85
Cheers will msg ya. 👍Quote:
Originally Posted by Jägermeister
FYI a burris veracity will shit on the vx3. Probably closer to a vx5/vx6 in quality. Had a few leupolds and I couldn't bring myself to own something less than vx5 if I wanted to dial
Yeah mate. Not badly priced either...Quote:
Originally Posted by Shearer
https://broncos.co.nz/hunting/optics...minated-e3-moa
According to their website they do but not 2-10 and its only the g-3 reticle . They seem to have all the boxes ticked . Just not seen one yet to look through which will be the acid test.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shearer
Seems that their none available yet , so if someone does get a look through them id bee keen to know what they thought.
@H.M
In fairness, I have got to make a comment regarding eye relief of Leupold 4.5-14*40.
At 4.5 x the eye relief is 112 mm, which is substantially more than most.
And at 14x it is 94mm.
By comparison as an example, the swarovski z6 2.5-15*44 has 95mm and the z3 , 3-10*42 has 90mm.
So, the stats and specs actually support leupold eye relief as being very good.
I have been very satisfied with mine over the years. :). I also make good use of the b&c reticles without difficulty.
I wouldn't like a VX3 4.5-14 for a hunting scope.
I didn't notice the eyebox or eye relief being too picky, but the FOV on 4.5x is tiny.
As others have said the VX5 2-10 would be my pick, if that's too expensive then would consider a VX3 3.5-10.
Can't comment on the new Burris but other new options from Burris seem to get pretty good reviews.
Agree I've tried my son's vx3 4.5 x 14 and eye relief is very fussy and my mate has one and he really strugglies on high power to get a full picture.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beetroot
I would never buy one.
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For me it was more the limited FOV (even on 4.5x) that I didn't like as my hunting was mixed close up/long range. Otherwise excellent scope.
Unless you have a very large objective lens, say like 50 - 56mm then your alway goung to get smaller field of view when you go higher magnification. Of course 2x mag will have more fov (and more light) than a 4.5x with same objective lens size! If your bush hunting then 2x is advantageous compared to 5 x. It's a very different story if you are hunting in open longer range terrain though. It's the old story;
Horses for Courses. The fact is; the leupold 4.5-14 *40 is ACTUALLY 4.9x-14.4x *40, so you may as well realise that on low power it is essentially a 5 x scope and designed more for open country longer range hunting than bush hunting.
Which suits me fine as i mainly hunt open tussock and tops. Would hardly ever use the lower end apart from maybe once a year. Cheers for the info.Quote:
Originally Posted by Woody
Don't get sucker in by the bigger objective lens gives bigger FOV. It has other functions eg light gathering and maybe clarity of image, depending upon quality.
Size of the objective lens does not determine FOV.
FOV is all done in the eyepiece lens and the scope internals.
A good example is my old Leupold 3x. It has a huge FOV but the objective lens is the same diameter as the tube itself.
Take a look at what the likes of Swarovski achieve without bulbous front ends.
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by zimmer
https://riflescopescenter.com/field-...%20the%20scope.
That is correct. My typo error. Larger eyepiece and tube have more fov effect. Large front end = more light at a given magnification. An easy comparison is to set a 2-10*40 scope set at 5 x alongside a 4.9-14.4 *40. That sets the fov's on a comparable footing and you'll find little difference then. 30-34 mm tubes and large ocular lense is why some of the high end scopes have more brightness and fov, but, you pay a premium for that. Incidentally, the eye relief on most NF scopes are less than leupold and others including some well known "high end brands etc.
Which part of your post was the typo?Quote:
Originally Posted by Woody
Worth looking out for an older Leica ER 3.5-14 x 42, picked one up here (Scotland) for just under $900 NZD.
Dial turret, side focus, light, excellent glass and good eye relief/box compared to FOV. Made in Germany.
Downsides, turret is single turn non-locking, only 20 odd MOA worth of elevation.
No illumination (not a negative or positive).
Personally avoid illuminated reticles unless needed twilight/night shooting (I guess you bush hunters may find it useful sometimes), rare for them to be daylight bright and light with good battery life. Swaro seem to have it down pat with their z8i but that is serious coin...
Love the Fire Dot on my VX5. I just leave the brightness set so it is invisible in bright daylight but you can see the dot when the light fades or you are looking into the darkness under the tree canopy. It never gets too bright that way. Motion activated so you don't have to turn it on/off (like Swaro) and the battery life seem good. Housed in the paralax turret too so very compact.
Yeah @Shearer. Like mine too, except its in for repairs of dialing at mo.
My typo was referring to objective lens instead of ocular lens when discussing fov. Brain fade :)
Haha. Okay. Haven't seen many scopes with a 50-56mm ocular lens.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Woody