Thread: "New" scopes.

So an Element, Athlon or Arken scope could well come out of the same factory as a Nikko Sterling, Bushnell or Vortex Makes it difficult to determine what is good value for money.

Originally Posted by Shearer

So an Element, Athlon or Arken scope could well come out of the same factory as a Nikko Sterling, Bushnell or Vortex Makes it difficult to determine what is good value for money.

Long story short yes.

The Element Theos and Nexus are made by the same company who make the Athlon Cronus, most Bushnells, Vortex Razor, most (if not all) Nightforce, Delta Stryker, Tract Toric, Maven, etc.
The Athlon scopes are made by the same company that makes the Vortex Strike Eagle and Venom scopes, the Bushnell Match Pro, many Element scopes, etc.

I'd say stick to the more better known brands, especially the ones with a NZ presence, unless you are looking for something in particular.
I'd happily by an Element or Arken scope in NZ, but would be a little more nervous with Riton, Swampfox, Blackhound etc, especially if you are importing one.

Country of origin isn't as important today and there are scome really good scopes coming out of the Philippines and China, and you can get a turd from Japan.

Originally Posted by Beetroot

Long story short yes.

The Element Theos and Nexus are made by the same company who make the Athlon Cronus, most Bushnells, Vortex Razor, most (if not all) Nightforce, Delta Stryker, Tract Toric, Maven, etc.
The Athlon scopes are made by the same company that makes the Vortex Strike Eagle and Venom scopes, the Bushnell Match Pro, many Element scopes, etc.

I'd say stick to the more better known brands, especially the ones with a NZ presence, unless you are looking for something in particular.
I'd happily by an Element or Arken scope in NZ, but would be a little more nervous with Riton, Swampfox, Blackhound etc, especially if you are importing one.

Country of origin isn't as important today and there are scome really good scopes coming out of the Philippines and China, and you can get a turd from Japan.

Alot of the atacrs are made in the states.
Yes LOW optics do make a lot of nf products but under stringent Qc which you pay for.

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Originally Posted by andyanimal31

Alot of the atacrs are made in the states.
Yes LOW optics do make a lot of nf products but under stringent Qc which you pay for.

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But is the extra you pay for quality control or the Night Force name????

Originally Posted by Shearer

But is the extra you pay for quality control or the Night Force name????

Nightforce is quality!

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Originally Posted by andyanimal31

Nightforce is quality!

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You're pulling yourself rather vigorously if you don't think the name attracts a fair chuck of your dollar too.

Originally Posted by kiwijames

You're pulling yourself rather vigorously if you don't think the name attracts a fair chuck of your dollar too.

There is a reason it is at the top of the heap, and it's not the name that put it there..
Rugged reliable repeatable.
Thatz what counts .
Not many brands can do all three.

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Originally Posted by Shearer

But is the extra you pay for quality control or the Night Force name????

A bit of both, high end or low, there is always some money going toward the branding. Pay a bit more and you have the luxury of not having to suspend your disbelief if you want to believe the hype.

Originally Posted by andyanimal31

Alot of the atacrs are made in the states.
Yes LOW optics do make a lot of nf products but under stringent Qc which you pay for.

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Depends if you consider 'made' to be interchageable with 'assembled'.

Leupold has been putting out scopes that are on par with Chinese products (exemption being the MK5HD line), but priced 3-5x the cost for several years now.