I'm after a pair of rings for my one... I've got a dodgy pair and can't justify the cost of a new set..Quote:
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I'm after a pair of rings for my one... I've got a dodgy pair and can't justify the cost of a new set..Quote:
Originally Posted by Tikka7mm08
Not expensive...5/8ths from memory and aussie company sell them..."Millet" may be?Quote:
Originally Posted by Biggun708
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I have tried R50 and Eley Black. I settled on Norma Jaktmatch based on a combination of longer range accuracy and price. I am getting into sorting by rim thickness now and saw some cool results with the Norma - 10 shot sub MOA at 120m. But the rim thickness testing ahs also brought into question my decision to go with the Norma in the first place so i am back to testing some Lapua ammunition as well. Just need another day to do some longer range accuracy testing and try them over the Magnetospeed.Quote:
Originally Posted by sneeze
Did the R50 perform? I tried the RWS Match. Groups are very good but the same velocity spread issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gillie
Id be interested in your lapua results.
I've recently bought a Sako Finnfire 2, which has a wood stock and is identical to a quad except the barrel change screw has been covered over. It's not really a beautiful rifle, just nice to use and does the job without thinking about it.
With plastic trigger guard, magazine and bolt shroud, its build philosophy is more like the Sako A7 or Tikka than the Sako 85. For unknown reason, the bolt release is on the other side too.
Like Gillie, I've found a lot of ammo gives vertical strung out groups. Eley Match (black), old Tenex and R50 give circular groups and are acceptable at 50m. (under 1MOA). Several other brands like orange RWS Target, Eley Subsonic (green, hollowpoint) and the 42 Gr Winc Subsonic shoot OK at 25 yd but not at 50.
However, my scores on target are now consistently better than I could get with the old well polished JW15, accurate as it was.
Does anyone know where you can get aftermarket metal bits for the Finnfire / Quad ?
Not 100% sure if these guys still ship to NZ, I've ordered from them in the past for DIP gear. They still have New Zealand as a shipping country in drop down but not sure if it's generic.
https://kinneysshootingsupply.com/co...ko-accessories
Worth a try though.
@Bagheera I have brought DI Products out of Kinneys Shooting Supplies previously as well. They were very good to deal with.
The other option is Delta Tactical in Aussie when they have what you want in stock:
Delta Tactical | Online Firearms & Tactical Accessory Experts
Good site to know about.
Work in progress, few DIP bits to end up on it.
Suppressor also needed for the carbon barrel as it's a little too stumpy almost
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Hilver used to.. They've disappeared.. Warne do...$160.. I'll keep asking around.. Someone will have a old pair :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tikka7mm08
I wrote a big reply detailing a bunch of testing I have been doing. Then though most people would be bored by it so I deleted it. Bottom line was that the R50 shot great at 50m and 100m. The velocity consistency over a 10 shot string measured with a magnetospeed V3 was as good as anything else I have tried.Quote:
Originally Posted by sneeze
The reasons why I am not using R50 is that the accuracy at 200m wasn't as good as the Norma, SK Match and Lapua Polar Biathlon. Of course in your rifle you might get different results....
When you guy's are sorting by rim thickness etc what kind of tolerance are you aiming for?
And does the same apply for 17hmr?
I've personally never bothered
The older genuine Brno's have a 16mm groove. I have a pair of 16mm CZ steel rings that I paid $120 for and never used; I'd sell them for $80.Quote:
Originally Posted by Biggun708
If you want the best try these (formerly Hilver) in medium although probably out of your price bracket. Have used several pairs on my Brno's. The low is too low unless you have a small ocular (rear) eye piece on your scope to clear the bolt handle. Perfect for the Brno 581 auto though.
BRNO Ringmounts ZKM611 and Early Model 1 and CZ 527 16mm dovetail
I had a Jones rimfire accuracy gauge and gave up on gauging for rim thickness years ago as I never noticed a difference in several Anschutz and Feinwerkbau target rifles. Have always had the best groups with Lapua Midas followed by Eley Tenex. Haven't tried the Midas Plus or R50 yet but plan to shortly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nibblet
Every rifle is different so gauging for rim thickness may work for you.
PM sent... Cheers... :)Quote:
Originally Posted by 10-Ring
I'm having a "nice" 22 thing at the moment too, "nice" to me means all steel, walnut and shoots lights out. I'm still looking and thinking but found this thread very interesting, especially the list of "who's made it" and the equipment they were using.
https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/foru...eally-Prove-it!
IMO this is one of the toughest challenges out there for repeater hunting style .22's (an in form target rifle should be able to do it but its still a very stern test of shooting ability and discipline).
Cheers
The Mother of All Rimfire Ammo Tests — AccurateReloading.com « Daily Bulletin
Google's been listening.
Any tried barrel tuners on a rimfire? Seen guys using them in f-class etc
@Gillie what kind of accuracy are you getting at 200m? I know wind will play a huge factor, but what is the best groups you can reliably shoot?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gillie
Whilst my 22 is good under 100m once I get out to 150-200m it's basically shooting 200mm groups.
@Beetroot, when I play my part and in good conditions i can shoot sub MOA at 200m (so groups come about 50mm or just under) but only just. In my sako quad i think the Norma and Lapua Polar Biathlon shot 10 shot groups that were just over MOA at 200m, SK Match and R50 shot about 1.5MOA 10 shot groups and the Eley black came in a little over 2MOA.
For me though i am suffering from velocity fliers and vertical strung groups at longer ranges. I have changes ammunition batches though and those velocity fliers seem more prevalent in my current batch of Norma.
I have a Mauser 107 that shoots right at MOA or just over at 200m with the Lapua Polar Biathlon - peeved me off because its a cheap little basic 22LR and it shoots awesome - my Sako quad is easier to shoot well and has a vastly better scope on it but that little Mauser is still there accuracy wise.
@Nibblet I am sorting rim thickness in 0.01mm increments and yes in my stupid, anal, pedantic mind i am seeing a justified improvement in accuracy with my rifle. As 10-Ring mentioned you may or may not see an improvement with yours. Also yes the same potential improvement would be seen with a 17hmr as both cartridges are head-spaced off the rim.
The Pobjeda target looks like "the shit" (or maybe just shit).Quote:
Originally Posted by Nibblet
Has anyone realised that this is a 2011 thread?
Thanks gillie, might have to give it a whirl just for trails sake.
That pobjeda is like buck shot compared to some of the others in that test.
Yeah it's an old thread but still relevant.
What about one of those Sako finnfire .22's they look pretty nice, can't say the same about the price though .
@Gillie bloody hell that's some good shooting! Do you use a suppressor with the subs/std velocity or does it effect accuracy/reliability?
Where is the best place to pick up a decent range of match 22lr ammo?
Ive got an anschutz 1416 i think the model is. Learnt to shoo with it anx bought it off my old man and the thing is a machine. Ive probably put a few thousand rounds through it killed hundreds of possums rabbits and hares with it. Even killed a 80-90lb sow with it one day. Longest kill ive managed with it is 152 smoked a hare. Bloody good guns if this one ever dies ill buy another anschutz
Cheers,Quote:
Originally Posted by Gillie
Seems counter intuitive ? any idea what was going on with the 200m groups?
Those Bleiker target rifles rock. Of course, it pays to bear in mind that with any accuracy test the result is only applicable to the specific rifle used. The next Bleiker off the production line may and almost certainly will produce a different result. Rimfire ammo is further complicated by the accuracy variances in different batches of the same type/brand even though there is strict quality control on the more expensive target brands.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nibblet
Extreme .22 LR accuracy is a fascinating subject.
Exactly right.Quote:
Originally Posted by 10-Ring
Nice to see so many various brands tested in one spot though.
Google has been spying on me and it popped up on my home page.
Mate finally got a chance to put a couple bits together on my quad.
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I really like my Ruger 77/22.It feels like a propper Rifle,the bolt is alot more solid in function than most rimfires.The Barrel has been cut back to 12" to make it standard length with a Can.
It shoots like a dream and hasn't let me down in 21 years.
PMII on a rimfire!!!
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Originally Posted by Nibblet
Yeah you need to put them on something with light recoil or they die it turns outQuote:
Originally Posted by LOC
Hope the one on my .338 lapua improved doesn't die.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nibblet
But I see nothing wrong with having it on a .22, why not.
Don't hold your breath aye @BRADS....Quote:
Originally Posted by MSL
I have a set of those millets new here somewhere I think, if that is something you desire. And the other poster was correct, they are about $58. Could possibly do free freight....Quote:
Originally Posted by Biggun708
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Originally Posted by LOC
i have always looked at it the other way . . . ' why wouldnt you put a great scope on a rimfire '
first thing i do with a new scope is bolt it on my most accurate .22lr and test the hell out of it . . . i fire hundreds of shots going up & down the elevation, changing power and focus lookn for trouble, if it passes that test it goes on a centerfire.
That is the single best thing I have read on the interweb for a very long time, thanks for sharing the idea. I'm going to put it into practice right away.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossi.45
Mate, i like your style! Very nice scope!Quote:
Originally Posted by Nibblet
My quad varmint...
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Wonder where he got that idea....Quote:
Originally Posted by LOC
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