Thread: Night vision for dummies

Hehe, welcome back Tim, yeah, kinda figured out this has more zeroes than I care for

I once was told to shoot a good Thar you climb as high as you think they are and then climb as high again. Same with this stuff but talking $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

Originally Posted by Tasbay

I once was told to shoot a good Thar you climb as high as you think they are and then climb as high again. Same with this stuff but talking $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

No offence to who told you that about thar. But it's no where near accurate. I get your meaning tho.
Can anyone tell me from experience if the gen 3 civilian stuff is as good as the military issue pilkington kite site and Litton nvg's we had a few years ago in the military?

I was on the trial that tested that gear among others and although they were not my personal preference, they were pretty good bits of kit all the same.
I seen plenty of animals with both while doing army stuff. With and without IR assistance.
Has what we can buy now got better than that, is what I am asking?



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Originally Posted by R93

No offence to who told you that about thar. But it's no where near accurate. I get your meaning tho.
Can anyone tell me from experience if the gen 3 civilian stuff is as good as the military issue pilkington kite site and Litton nvg's we had a few years ago in the military?

I was on the trial that tested that gear among others and although they were not my personal preference, they were pretty good bits of kit all the same.
I seen plenty of animals with both while doing army stuff. With and without IR assistance.
Has what we can buy now got better than that, is what I am asking?



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Somewhere here I have a Pilkington Kite MK4 and a set of Litton PVS-7A goggles in Gen3. Yes the Gen3 I import is way above either of thoes units. Above the Litton and way above the Kite. The Kite is still my shooting night scope. Its had a hard life & came back from Bosnia ex someones army. But I have had it 10 or so years and it just keeps running so have never replaced it. Actually all the D-740 & D-760 Nightscopes I have imported in Gen2+ have been better than the kite. The photo shows a PVS-7B not ``A``unit.

Like the others said - there is quite a range of products out there - but like everything (to a point of course) the better gear will be more expensive - better performance normally costs
Plenty of deer shot with cheap rifles as expensive ones too - all horses for courses

NV Gen1 starts around $1500 ish (maybe less maybe more) and then goes up from there
Thermal - around $4000 to $5000 will get you into a good unit - Thermal is about detection really, once you know something is there - then work it out

The thing is to work out what you expect to do with the units and how much you will use them vs your budget

I think what some users of the gear could do is take some images (may or may not be easy with cameras) though the units and list the distances and light involved so you can see

Originally Posted by R93

No offence to who told you that about thar. But it's no where near accurate. I get your meaning tho.
Can anyone tell me from experience if the gen 3 civilian stuff is as good as the military issue pilkington kite site and Litton nvg's we had a few years ago in the military?

I was on the trial that tested that gear among others and although they were not my personal preference, they were pretty good bits of kit all the same.
I seen plenty of animals with both while doing army stuff. With and without IR assistance.
Has what we can buy now got better than that, is what I am asking?



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R93 : Here are a couple of photos taken just before half moon and slightly overcast. The one of the scrub is actually a Wallaby with the sight on him taken through a Pilkington Kite. The second is my son with the same wallaby at left about 10 min later taken with a Katod Gen3 PVS-7. No IR light used in either photo.