Thread: no serial numbers

I had 2 shot guns without serial numbers. This was long b4 the impending poo. I put numbers on them for my insurance list.

I just invented 2 numbers (combination of my road address and some other random numbers and I think one prefix letter IIRC) and engraved under the breach area using a pneumatic engraver.
I don't know if on a rifle for example that they are required to be visable. With the shotguns of course it is very easy to get at the numbers. I would have thought with rifle under wood is OK as long as you can demonstrate (by stripping) that it has a unique number. And the more valuable or rare I would be reluctant to have a visible number.

Originally Posted by zimmer

I had 2 shot guns without serial numbers. This was long b4 the impending poo. I put numbers on them for my insurance list.

I just invented 2 numbers (combination of my road address and some other random numbers and I think one prefix letter IIRC) and engraved under the breach area using a pneumatic engraver.
I don't know if on a rifle for example that they are required to be visable. With the shotguns of course it is very easy to get at the numbers. I would have thought with rifle under wood is OK as long as you can demonstrate (by stripping) that it has a unique number. And the more valuable or rare I would be reluctant to have a visible number.

I used to engrave handgun frames on a cnc mill after they were imported into OZ as the importer needed to engrave deep and wanted neat as it was going to be visible. The NZ Police may want something heavier than hand engraving which would leave you with stamping or machine engraving.

No idea what you're going to do Barry unless you want to plug the muzzles.

Originally Posted by No good names left

No idea what you're going to do Barry unless you want to plug the muzzles.

Plug them with wooden dowels with red flags hanging off them stating 'bang!'

Originally Posted by No good names left

I used to engrave handgun frames on a cnc mill after they were imported into OZ as the importer needed to engrave deep and wanted neat as it was going to be visible. The NZ Police may want something heavier than hand engraving which would leave you with stamping or machine engraving.

No idea what you're going to do Barry unless you want to plug the muzzles.

If the Police want that, and at this stage I would bet nothing has been formulated/clarified that would leave hundreds, no thousands of firearms in NZ needing their serial numbers "touched" up due to not being "deep" enough, or worn due to corrosion.
Plus numbers punched or pneumaticaly engraved even though removed by crims for example can still show up under xray so desired outcome achieved.

And the subject of a deactivated firearm in NZ is that virtually no such thing exists and in the eyes of the police they are still firearms. Although having said that @gundoc posted something way back around 2018 stating the steps (machining etc) required to create such a firearm. The steps were quite extensive.

Originally Posted by No good names left

I used to engrave handgun frames on a cnc mill after they were imported into OZ as the importer needed to engrave deep and wanted neat as it was going to be visible. The NZ Police may want something heavier than hand engraving which would leave you with stamping or machine engraving.

No idea what you're going to do Barry unless you want to plug the muzzles.

have spoken to a gunsmith yeah said police not happy with calling them de activated lot involved for him welding cutting drilling into breech etc was not at all keen to do it maybe I will put it on here for $50 and see if someone wants it