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So, Its my 21st today and feel like treating myself to a new toy, been having a look at the norinco bush ranger as it seems like it could be a good cheap to shoot bolt gun and its not often you see a bolt gun chambered in 7.62x39
Thing is, Norinco products are very hit or miss... Literally.
Whats your opinions or experience with this rifle?
I had one it sprayed everywhere won't get another one again, try and find a zastava in 7.62x39
ive also heard they are hit and miss zastava would be an option or sks which can be similar accuracy wise or one of the single shots might be better accuracy wise
i'd love a zastava but every one i've seen is out my price range, only got about 450 to play with! :(
They tend to break extractors? apparently, and yes not shoot very straight. SKS is noisy if chambering while hunting? but apparently great fun to plink with which owning an AR I can believe. Zasatva seems a good buy from comments Ive seen but not on sale on TM often. As an example a mate sold his norinco and while looking for a zastava ended up with a CZ I think. $450.....hmm budget.
I'm not too keen on the SKS as a bush gun due to the lack of range and always having one in the chamber with it being a semi.
I have this rifle in both .223 &7.62x39. the latter started life with a few "teething problems ,since remedied by GC under my wary eye, and it performs OK.
the .223 on the other hand was 2nd hand and I got it for a bargain on here. It is a cracker .
like the others ,id go graze the gunshops and maybe lookfor a reasonable 2nd hand gun to start with. also seek advice of people with experience, or take them with you.
best of luck anyhow
sks will have he same range as the bushranger but as said they are noisy to chamber a round I was toying with the idea of getting one a while back but got the sks for plinking instead not the most accurate thing but then again it was never desighned to be its been very reliable tho
ballistically from my research the 7.62x39rd and the venerable .303 have much the same characteristics. anyhow was over gazing at a TM hopefuls ad for a norinco jw15ss that he thinks is worth ???????$700.00 asking price(alleges over a grand with accesories kit new):ORLY:.this was highlighted by a sensible member on this forum.just below is the hardy perennial guncity floggin em off brand new for $300.00:wtfsmilie::wtfsmilie::ORLY:
i spotted a 2nd hand remington woodmaster s/a in .308 photowise seems in tidy nick may be worth the OP making some enquiries:thumbsup:
There was a a nice looking Zastava on one of the FB groups for 500. I would personally get the sks over a bush ranger. Cheaper and probably same accuracy.
I jusy had a chat to my mate, his would only shoot 4~5MOA and the bolt was awful to use.
He looked at the zastava and CZ and the CZ was the best, but I think $1200ish new and pretty much that second hand. The zastavas are $800? if available and pretty much that second hand.
The biggest issue with Norincos is there is more than one "Norinco" company. The Bisley Small Arms factory branded Norincos seem to be the better of what I have seen but the "Polytech" brand is by far the worst for consistancy I have ever come across.As for guns in your budget, keep an eye out on the likes of trade me.
You can get a good working rifle for that amount. here are some examples
Mosin Nagant $245 from Reloaders supplies. (7.62x54R so bigger than you were looking at)
Swedish 6.5x55 6.5x55 Swedish Mauser | Trade Me or Carl Gustav 6.5x55 sporter | Trade Me
Zastava are a bit dearer but worth waiting for new at around $800
Break open Baikals are usually around $400 new. Reloaders have them and so do we. Calibre choices are 223, 308, 7.62x39 and I have seen 30/06, 243, 7.62x54R and a 303. but dont know where to send you for one.
At the end of the day, with your budget, you will be looking at second hand to get the best value. But I would really suggest saving a bit more as if you can double that amount you open a whole new range of firearms like Marlin, Howa, Ruger if you go new, and many others if you go 2nd hand. Good luck.
Savage Axis.308 Scoped Package | Trade Me
$499 too much?
second hand 6.5x55 mauser would be hard to beat in that price range if you are not dead keen on 7.62x39 id stay away from axis and theres a shit model cheap Remington to avoid as well
We try to help each other out on this forum, not help set each other back :D :PQuote:
Originally Posted by steven
Don't get the axis and don't get the norinco. If you can't spend much either keep saving (sucks I know) or keep an eye on trademe all the time in that price range as good rifles do come up they just usually go fast
Well, I gave in and got an unissued SKS, Came with cleaning kit, sling, scope rail and shell deflector all for less than what the norinco was going for :)Attachment 33515
Mosins are hugely underrated. get one with a good barrel, pre war if you can and with non forced matching numbers.
I looked for the carbine version, The regular 91/30s are too damn long for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Konev
they are ok for a bit of fun I think a few on here use them successfully for hunting mine shoots minute of 4l oil pack at 100 youll need to experiment and find out what ammo it likes ive never reloaded for mine as its hard to find the empties
2 inches at 100 with some trueing up work
I've got one and it's pretty good, wouldn't say great but it's accurate enough. Definitely not "target" grade accuracy, but good enough for a clean kill shot.
I took it to Gillie's shoot at Mucko's place last year and got a reasonable score, good enough to be happy with the result.
Mine did need a fair bit of polishing on the bolt to get it to cycle smoothly, but haven't struck any other issues with it. Feeds Tula and Barnaul steel case 123gn perfectly, and consistent accuracy from both of those brands (in hollow point and soft point). Mine's a Bisley, so maybe I struck a good one...
ive just put a bolt buffer in mine wouldn't mind a better stock as im a bit long and lanky for the standard one
770?Quote:
Originally Posted by northdude
bugger I was/am planning on selling my FTR'd M44 if I'd known I'd have suggested so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scottishkiwi
oh well.
Easiest improvement to the SKS is to add about 40 mm to the length of the stock (unless you are 5 foot nothing) the increased length of pull really improves the hold and sight picture. U can do it the expensive ATI stock way or the couple of pieces of ply method. Then since you have a scope rail get a red dot. Minute of rabbit easyAttachment 33522
I couldn't get the wooden gas tube cover off either bloody pin wouldn't punch outQuote:
Originally Posted by Marty Henry
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The pin doesn't punch out it's flat on one side,it rotates up and then the gas tube lifts off.Hope this helps.
just be carefull when you take the gas tube off you don't lose the piston sometimes they fly out as you take it off
SKS disassembly
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My stock didn't come with the plastic cover (got it as a swap) anyway I think the wood looks nicer!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ahuroa SC
FTR'd?Quote:
Originally Posted by steven
I might get an ATI stock or dragunov style stock, The stock sometimes feels like it was made for a child but this paratrooper model is purposely short. I'm very lucky at how good the condition of this rifle is. Btw heres a better picture Attachment 33546
Cheers but I mean this.Quote:
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Did you try to drive it both ways? Sometimes they're a lot easier to push out left to right rather than right to left
Factory Thorough RefurbishmentQuote:
Originally Posted by Konev
got a bisley and it is great for what it is..my scrub gun
150 yards is our set max for it
2-3" at 100 yards with .308 125grn nosler ballistic tips
chopped and canned it gets taken quite often as is so plurry neat to carry
yes bolt is noisy but that's only taking round from mag, by time you need to get round out of mag deer should be dead
150 grn .308 reloads taken deer out at bush ranges for us no worries.
old loopy M8 4x fits it like a glove in elcheapho mounts
only issue Ive had was loose bases..Loctite 243 fixed them.
How short did you chop it and what can are you using? I've just picked up another one that is getting "the full treatment".
Attachment 36112took about 1 1/2" off stock as it had crack in it and got GW Spartan fitted to this length so about 8" off.
got a three shot mag with it (5 cut down) absolutely 190% better to carry than with 5 shot sticking out.
have taken her apart greased and gave hot gluegun bedding...quick and painless
did it help???? didn't hurt LMAO
and NO I cant rotate image...wasn't born into generation XBox
Image looks fine to me
