Thread: NZ Police import permit 'Hand in' MSSA policy

Originally Posted by Kscott

There are a number of A cat holders who are turning their AR's into MSSA by choosing to buy large capacity magazines and collapsible stocks. And when private sales of said components are willingly entered in to by the buyer and seller, we're all a bit fucked.

I agree, not prosecuting those who choose to break the law is a joke.

A cat holders who are already assessed as being 'of good character'. I was more pointing toward the fact an A cat AR15 can live in a bs tinfoil safe, but an E cat AR has to live in an E cat safe - an it takes next to no time to turn an A into an E (2 seconds if we're talking big mags, which is really the only functional difference apart from a collapsing stock) so Mr Burglar doesn't give a toss about the distinction between the two once he's got ahold of an A because he doesn't obey the law. Hence why I think the whole E thing is poorly thought out. They should be more interested in the whole good character thing than stupid stuff like turning in/swapping triggers at customs, and only selling complete ARs, it's unnecessary bullshit that stops nothing and impedes the law-abiding. Actually applying the weight of the law to transgressors (burglars, people selling to unlicensed, etc)

This guy being a good example: Gun collector's actions 'abhorrent' - National - NZ Herald News , sentenced to 21 months for selling 121 restricted firearms, inc at least 30 pistols and 4 "machine guns". Reckon he actually served 21 months? Even if he did serve the whole lot, that's just over 5 days per restricted firearm ffs

Originally Posted by Tommy

This guy being a good example: Gun collector's actions 'abhorrent' - National - NZ Herald News , sentenced to 21 months for selling 121 restricted firearms, inc at least 30 pistols and 4 "machine guns". Reckon he actually served 21 months? Even if he did serve the whole lot, that's just over 5 days per restricted firearm ffs

This has to be the most ridiculous example of our firearms law in history. Here we are asking how criminals get guns, all while insisting that in other areas of crime that harsh penalties are great deterrents but fail to apply it across the board including firearm crime.