Objecting to Gun Confiscation

I wanted to contribute to fighting the impending gun confiscation scheme, so I've put together a list of the email addresses of every venue that is hosting a "buy-back" event. The ones I could find, at least.

I have sent emails to every single one of them urging them to cancel the event bookings.
I've already gotten some responses so the message is getting through.
If they get dozens or hundreds of similar emails, they may even do the right thing and cancel.
If we can get just one venue to cancel, it will be a small but important win for us and a step in the right direction for once.

If you want to help, just write an email stating why you feel these "buy-back" events are wrong and why these venues shouldn't host them. Then copy and paste all the email addresses into the Bcc field and hit send. Don't think that you can't make a difference, because you absolutely can, and here is a great place to start.

P.S. For anyone who wants to accuse me of doxxing these people, none of these email addresses were private.
I obtained them all from public web pages, without exception. All I did was gather them together in one place.

Here you go, and if you want to do more there are some venues that can only be contacted through their websites listed below all the email addresses.

kenny.terri@xtra.co.nz ; team@bargeshowgrounds.co.nz; info@kerikerisportscomplex.co.nz; farnorthrsa@gmail.com; fish.houhora@xtra.co.nz; sarah_lea63@hotmail.com; shaunkat@hotmail.com; cheryls@sportnorth.co.nz;
info@aucklandstadiums.co.nz; gm@ponsonbyrugby.co.nz; info@pukekohepark.co.nz; sharksclubrooms@gmail.com; clubhire@papakurarugby.co.nz; reception@thetrustsarena.co.nz; info@edenpark.co.nz; info@kumeushow.co.nz; info@montressors.co.nz;
info@tearohanz.co.nz; info@mpdc.govt.nz; jeffriesmahoenui@xtra.co.nz; huntlythistleafc@gmail.com;
cambridgeraceway@gmail.com; dartplayer1963@gmail.com; admin@matamataracingclub.co.nz; sponsor@matamataracingclub.co.nz; bushunited@xtra.co.nz; customer.services@tcdc.govt.nz; waiparacing@vodafone.co.nz; ​​​​​​​ngatearugbysportsclub@gmail.com; stephengooder11@gmail.com; Secretary.thamesrugby@gmail.com; battson01@gmail.com;
paeroasports@gmail.com; raglanrugbysportsclub@gmail.com; crht@xtra.co.nz; macrae.waitete@xtra.co.nz;
sam.tairuarugbyandsportsclub@gmail.com;
taupo@vcc.org.nz; secretary@taupovcc.org; tepukesports@gmail.com; eventsandvenues@rdc.govt.nz; contact@swca.co.nz;
maraekakahocommunityhall@gmailc.om; mangateretere@airnet.net.nz ; mstewartmangateretere@gmail.com; admin@13squadron.co.nz; Waimarama.Hall@gmail.com; office@chbc.school.nz; admin@putorino.school.nz ; principal@tiaho.school.nz ; admin@tepohue.school.nz; principal@tepohue.school.nz; matapirohall@gmail.com; principal@nuhaka.school.nz; principal@makaraka.school.nz; eskviewrugbyclub@gmail.com; office@poukawa.school.nz; principal@poukawa.school.nz; carol@amc.nz; info@napier.govt.nz;
deanna@raceinc.co.nz; kim@raceinc.co.nz; kate.dench@raceinc.co.nz; alasdair@raceinc.co.nz; info@creativecatering.co.nz; info@wjc.co.nz; bret@wjc.co.nz; anita@wjc.co.nz; events@newplymouthraceway.co.nz; taranakiracing@xtra.co.nz;
rechawera@gmail.com; dvkap@xtra.co.nz; tracy.fife@xtra.co.nz​; office@nzracing.co.nz; srcnaki@gmail.com; eventscentre@xtra.co.nz;
races@wellingtonracing.co.nz; venuehire@dogsnz.org.nz ; nob1@xtra.co.nz ; bookings@cookislandssociety.org.nz; chairperson@cookislandssociety.org.nz; vicechair@cookislandssociety.org.nz; treasurer@cookislandssociety.org.nz; secretary@cookislandssociety.org.nz; enquiries@swdc.govt.nz
foxglaciercdo@xtra.co.nz; manager@endeavourparkpicton.co.nz; kaikouratc@xtra.co.nz; hcaadmin@havelock.co.nz; murchison.centre@gmail.com;
bwcracing@xtra.co.nz; events@riccartonpark.co.nz; tim@riccartonpark.co.nz; chris@riccartonpark.co.nz; eric@riccartonpark.co.nz; gareth@riccartonpark.co.nz; kimberley.barton@stjohn.org.nz; rcc.enquiries@selwyn.govt.nz; admin@ateventcentre.co.nz; info@jubilee-events.co.nz; scout.guideden@gmail.com; geraldine@group.scouts.nz; waimateeventcentre@waimatedc.govt.nz;
taierirugby@hotmail.com; rebkev@xtra.co.nz; joni.simpson@cadetforces.org.nz; ian.calder@xtra.co.nz; grannynor100@gmail.com; ceo@gallopsouth.co.nz; hannah@wingatui.co.nz; craigandemmalister@farmside.co.nz; clevauto@xtra.co.nz; deborahjones@xtra.co.nz; stephanie.edwards@anz.com; andersontwinribers@xtra.co.nz; scott.celia@xtra.co.nz; matt.lawlor@xtra.co.nz; office@southlandracing.co.nz; islander@snap.net.nz; j.guise@woosh.co.nz; zolandia@xtra.co.nz; jo@gallopsouth.co.nz; southlandracing@xtra.co.nz; social.committee@marakura.org; commodore@marakura.org; secretary@marakura.org; publicity@marakura.org

Waipu Rugby Club, Barge Park, Dargaville Rugby Club, Kaeo Rugby Club have contact forms on their websites
Contact the Far North District Council at ask.us@fndc.govt.nz regarding Kerikeri Sports Complex, Bledisloe Domain and Pavilion, Lindvart Park and Pavilion, and Broadwood A&P Hall.
Mahurangi Rugby Club has a contact form on their website
Contact Auckland Council via their website regarding Ormiston Activity Centre and Wellsford Community Centre.
Claudelands Arena and Otorohanga Sports Club have contact forms on their websites.
Contact Matamata-Piako District Council via their website regarding Morrinsville Events Centre and Silver Fern Farms Events Centre.
Contact Whakatane District Council via their website regarding Ohope Hall and Murupara Sports Pavilion Hall.
Uawa Sports Club has a contact form on their website.
Contact Napier City Council regarding Meeanee Memorial Hall.
You can send a text to the management of Bilderbeck Hall at 021 615 062.
Lawrence Golf Club has a contact form on their website.

Thanks,
Kiwigunguy

Good work.

Crimes Act 1961 No 43 (as at 12 March 2019), Public Act 116 Conspiring to defeat justice – New Zealand Legislation

It seems more like one mans attempt to assist in the prevention of injustice to me.

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Originally Posted by Ultimitsu

Crimes Act 1961 No 43 (as at 12 March 2019), Public Act 116 Conspiring to defeat justice – New Zealand Legislation

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I didnt see any justice being hindered there.
Just opposition to the confiscation.

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Originally Posted by Ultimitsu

Crimes Act 1961 No 43 (as at 12 March 2019), Public Act 116 Conspiring to defeat justice – New Zealand Legislation

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If you consider that the ongoing saga and gun confiscation amounts to justice, then I believe you have twisted view of things to say the least

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Originally Posted by Ultimitsu

Crimes Act 1961 No 43 (as at 12 March 2019), Public Act 116 Conspiring to defeat justice – New Zealand Legislation

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And if the legislation is un-just?

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Originally Posted by Ultimitsu

Crimes Act 1961 No 43 (as at 12 March 2019), Public Act 116 Conspiring to defeat justice – New Zealand Legislation

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The way I see it is that no-one is writing to encourage anyone to commit any illegal action. Or do you think otherwise?

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Originally Posted by Steve123

And if the legislation is un-just?

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In the UK you may resist unlawful arrest, in the USA you don't have that freedom (you can get convicted for resisting arrest of you hold your hands up to protect your head as the night stick blows come a'hammering down on you). Not sure about NZ. But this is not quite about resisting arrest.

Just sent this. thanks @Kiwigunguy for the effort in making that contact list.



Hi there,

I am one of many sport shooters who are affected by the recently rushed and poorly written law to ban semi automatics (including many traditional bolt action and pump action sporting guns) from public possession and/or use.

Surely without bias towards either side of the argument you can see the error in the governments ways of rushing this law through without respectable due process.
Since when has anything rushed resulted in anything other than a sub standard product?
The very people who advocated rushing this law through will, when asked about any other parliamentary process tell you that good things take time.
Jacinda Adern authorised the order in council ​which had already 'saved us' so the only reason to rush this through was to use public emotion to support extreme measures against a 'problem' that exists only in the lala land of media hype and leftism lunacy.

Am I speaking logic? Or am I rambling, clutching at straws? If you choose the latter then please replace the word 'firearm' and apply this whole issue to some other part of daily life and see how it looks.

A proper look into the ACTUAL ​statistics will show you a very different story than what the police union and the rest of the mob have been feeding the country. Remember there is always two sides to a story...... Mike Loader has the real statistics AND the evidence to back up his claims, to anyone who can be bothered asking.... Kiwi gun blog is where you will find him.

Your venue's use as a confiscation (buy back) hub shows your willingness to support ignorant legislation that not only is unfair to so many upstanding citizens of our fine country, but it also indicates that you have zero respect for proper democratic process which should be devoid from emotionally charged rationale.

I urge you to politely decline use of your venue for this totally unfairly constructed confiscation (buy back).
Your feedback to the police should include a request for the whole lot to be redone with proper consideration towards legitimate use of semiautomatic rifles (just like pistols).
We are being nationally ridiculed and shunned by society for our chosen sports and interests and I personally feel this law is an embarrassment to the word democracy.

Sincerely

Done letter to all the emails. Not the contacts listed at the bottom of Kiwigunguy's posting.

I'm exhausted, still jet lagged, if someone could dig out the web addresses for the last ones that would help me to cut and paste into the contact forms on those web sites. Thanks.

Thank you guys so much for your help. It means a lot to me.
Cordite, I'm sorry but I did search far and wide for those other emails.
The entire list was probably 10 hours work.

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Originally Posted by Kiwigunguy

Thank you guys so much for your help. It means a lot to me.
Cordite, I'm sorry but I did search far and wide for those other emails.
The entire list was probably 10 hours work.

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The Waimarama Hall sent me this:
Waimarama Hall <waimarama.hall@gmail.com>
Fri 5/07/2019 9:19 PM
Hello David. I have no idea what you are talking about. We run a general store and our business has nothing to do with the Waimarama Hall.

Please re direct your emails to the correct place.

Thank you.


Otherwise I got two bounce back and am awaiting the flood of apologetic emails proclaiming how wrong they were!

Got one back from a school, they were a small place in the middle of the country, reckoned only 3 firearms would be collected from known persons within few hundred metres of the school, so they had decided to stay with the scheme, in fairness after a lot of soul searching.

In the end I think it will be down to individuals who just do the online form and tell the cops, as I don't get petrol money to attend your glorious event, please be advised they are in my safe, please make an appointment at a mutually agreed time to collect my property since you are the ones who want this, and I still expect due compensation. And put out cameras to film them as they turn up dressed in black like some Nazi tank regiment.

Why is this in Firearms , Optics and Accessories .
There is a whole forum section devoted to the stupidity that is being forced upon us , why have this here .
I have recently started just viewing the forum logged out so that the politics , frustration and stupidity of our situation doesn’t
Intrude into my enjoyment of this forum and the reason I come here .
Over the last months I realise my viewing here has turned into nothing more than a type of newsfeed addiction trying to keep up with what is happening and actual shooting and hunting has taken a second place .
I have really enjoyed viewing the forum without the turmoil of the ( firearm new laws section)
Please don’t bring it here and spoil my tranquility :)

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Originally Posted by Ground Control

Why is this in Firearms , Optics and Accessories .
There is a whole forum section devoted to the stupidity that is being forced upon us , why have this here .
I have recently started just viewing the forum logged out so that the politics , frustration and stupidity of our situation doesn’t
Intrude into my enjoyment of this forum and the reason I come here .
Over the last months I realise my viewing here has turned into nothing more than a type of newsfeed addiction trying to keep up with what is happening and actual shooting and hunting has taken a second place .
I have really enjoyed viewing the forum without the turmoil of the ( firearm new laws section)
Please don’t bring it here and spoil my tranquility :)

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You do not go to a forum for tranquility, you go out there.

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Originally Posted by Ground Control

Why is this in Firearms , Optics and Accessories .
There is a whole forum section devoted to the stupidity that is being forced upon us , why have this here .
I have recently started just viewing the forum logged out so that the politics , frustration and stupidity of our situation doesn’t
Intrude into my enjoyment of this forum and the reason I come here .
Over the last months I realise my viewing here has turned into nothing more than a type of newsfeed addiction trying to keep up with what is happening and actual shooting and hunting has taken a second place .
I have really enjoyed viewing the forum without the turmoil of the ( firearm new laws section)
Please don’t bring it here and spoil my tranquility :)

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Im with you. Rather all the conspiracy theory bullshitters and their dribble stayed in there and didn't leak beyond it. This thread is not in that group but its a precedent. Keep this forum about guns.

Sorry, hey everyone, we've accidentally strayed into the angry old man's garden, run!

Sorry, hey everyone, we've accidentally strayed into the angry old man's garden, run! Sorry Mister!

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Originally Posted by Steve123

And if the legislation is un-just?

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You vote in a government that is willing to repeal it. That is how the English democracy works.

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Originally Posted by Pengy

If you consider that the ongoing saga and gun confiscation amounts to justice, then I believe you have twisted view of things to say the least

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What I think - as to what is amounts to justice or what does not - is completely irrelevant.

The law is in, there is a government process to effectuate that law. If you do something or conspire to do something to obstruct, prevent, pervert, or defeat that process - which is in the eye of the government the course of justice, then you run the risk of offending this section.

There is a risk, I only give you some advice. the decision is entirely up to you.

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Originally Posted by Ultimitsu

What I think - as to what is amounts to justice or what does not - is completely irrelevant.

The law is in, there is a government process to effectuate that law. If you do something or conspire to do something to obstruct, prevent, pervert, or defeat that process - which is in the eye of the government the course of justice, then you run the risk of offending this section.

There is a risk, I only give you some advice. the decision is entirely up to you.

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That sounds like a really well thought out excuse to sit on your ass(no offence).
I think I'll take my chances gracefully swan-diving into this Orwellian cesspool of shit.

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Originally Posted by 40mm

The Waimarama Hall sent me this:
Waimarama Hall <waimarama.hall@gmail.com>
Fri 5/07/2019 9:19 PM
Hello David. I have no idea what you are talking about. We run a general store and our business has nothing to do with the Waimarama Hall.

Please re direct your emails to the correct place.

Thank you.


Otherwise I got two bounce back and am awaiting the flood of apologetic emails proclaiming how wrong they were!

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Copy that. Thank you.

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Originally Posted by Ultimitsu

You vote in a government that is willing to repeal it. That is how the English democracy works.

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How about the NZ democracy? The ball has been dropped, wouldn't you agree?

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Originally Posted by Kiwigunguy

That sounds like a really well thought out excuse to sit on your ass(no offence).
I think I'll take my chances gracefully swan-diving into this Orwellian cesspool of shit.

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Aaah...the word 'graceful'. Makes it all seem worthwhile somehow.:ORLY:

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Originally Posted by Ultimitsu

What I think - as to what is amounts to justice or what does not - is completely irrelevant.

The law is in, there is a government process to effectuate that law. If you do something or conspire to do something to obstruct, prevent, pervert, or defeat that process - which is in the eye of the government the course of justice, then you run the risk of offending this section.

There is a risk, I only give you some advice. the decision is entirely up to you.

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Hmm, not sure if minimal cooperation (not non-cooperation) with government initiatives can be perceived as perverting/obstructing/defeating the course of justice. There are two perfectly legal options to ask them to come to your house and collect, or to make an appointment at the police station to do the same.

No-one is saying "bury the guns" etc (which I agree would be an entirely different matter). But I can certainly understand why someone might feel angry (rightly so) and take such a course of action (not quite as rightly so).

But there is the other side of it, that if they think non compliance is prevalent, then they may think they haven't done enough and that more restrictions or actions need to be taken.

rebkev@xtra.co.nz asks to be taken off the mailing list, please respect this when you cut and paste the email address list for venues.

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Originally Posted by Cordite

rebkev@xtra.co.nz asks to be taken off the mailing list, please respect this when you cut and paste the email address list for venues.

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So far I'm calling negative on that one. I've seen no evidence that it's mistaken identity, and I've double-checked that the details are correct.
If I find otherwise, I might revisit that, but for now they can reap what they've sown. No one forced them to take part in this; they chose to do it for money.

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Originally Posted by Kiwigunguy

So far I'm calling negative on that one. I've seen no evidence that it's mistaken identity, and I've double-checked that the details are correct.
If I find otherwise, I might revisit that, but for now they can reap what they've sown. No one forced them to take part in this; they chose to do it for money.

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According to this page, Kev is indeed website admin for the Taieri RFC, the chairman is Sam Graf and Sam is the person responsible for hiring out of the hall. It would annoy me if I was chairman and our web site admin did not forward me negative feedback. How many rugby club supporters in a rural town do you think also have an acute interest in the firearms confiscation?
Taieri Rugby Football Club - Club Contacts

The police just added Balclutha War Memorial Hall to their list of confiscation venues.
Let's let the Clutha District Council know how we feel about that.

https://www.cluthadc.govt.nz/your-co...ubmission.aspx

The police have added some new venues to the list. I've also updated one that I believe was a typo from earlier. Let's flood them with emails as well. Here are the addresses:

info@gisborneshow.co.nz; seaviewlodge@xtra.co.nz; manager@blueskies.org.nz; info@mackenzie.govt.nz; info@mthuttfunctioncentre.co.nz; andersontwinrivers@xtra.co.nz

The confiscation event that was scheduled to take place on Sunday the 28th of July at the Ponsonby Rugby Club has been moved to Mount Smart Stadium instead. I can't be sure that they cancelled the booking because of this, but I'd like to think so. You've got to celebrate the small victories I suppose. It's at least a step in the right direction.

What do you hope to achieve through this course of action? If everyone agrees to cancel I imagine at best it will delay a buy back. I have seen nothing to suggest the law is under review?

Not going to one of their little parties and waiting till the bitter end has its merit but also disadvantages. At least at a venue they are valued immediately and you can dispute it and get second opinions as some in the thread on collection experiences have mentioned. With surrender at a station, or dealer if they ever get round to approving anyone they are recorded and valued later somewhere central. You loose the 1:1 and the ability to influence the outcome in your favour.

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Originally Posted by yosamitesam

What do you hope to achieve through this course of action? If everyone agrees to cancel I imagine at best it will delay a buy back. I have seen nothing to suggest the law is under review?

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Most LFAOs affected appear to be heeding COLFOs warning to stay away for now, that is the main factor delaying.

Writing to the venues is not primarily about hoping for cancellation of most events (fat chance!), and "only" one or two cancellations is actually a great achievement.

Reason is, cancellations are figurative "warning shots" that put NZ Police on notice that if people start seeing punters leaving their theft events too unhappy and too screwed over... then undecided future venue hosts will more likely than not "have enough evidence" to justify cancelling bookings.

I have no doubt this letter writing action has helped many out there to get a better deal than NZP / Jacinda's government intended them to get on their early hand-ins. If I'm correct, it's a 100% success.

So...keep writing guys, and stay polite and respectful - you want to win the person over more than you want to win a shouting match, write to them like they are - good guys who want to do a right thing and who need to know what's happening.

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Originally Posted by Kiwigunguy

The police just added Balclutha War Memorial Hall to their list of confiscation venues.
Let's let the Clutha District Council know how we feel about that.

https://www.cluthadc.govt.nz/your-co...ubmission.aspx

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I get Error 404 when I try to open that link.

And on looking through the list of email addresses in the first post on this thread I recognised one as being a used car yards address in the town of Balclutha, since the Balclutha War Memorial hall in that town is a collection place ( according to link above) I wonder why a car yard would be involved?