Looking at one of these for my AR15 - expensive yes but also light and not so long forward of the muzzle. Was specifically looking at this one
OCEANIA DEFENCE MIST 556-110
Anyone actually used one of these?
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Looking at one of these for my AR15 - expensive yes but also light and not so long forward of the muzzle. Was specifically looking at this one
OCEANIA DEFENCE MIST 556-110
Anyone actually used one of these?
Excellent suppressors. Bert knows his shit.
Reduce .223 below 140dB quite a bit
Hey mate I have the samson model on my NEA15 super light equal in sound reduction to my old maximus.Only annoying thing is it loosens up sometimes even after doing it up super tight.
I have one, and will be buying more-while I can't afford to replace all my current suppressers with them all future ones will be odi ones-they just seem to work better than my gunworks and hardy cans. And are much lighter.
I want one for my bolt gun, but is already threaded 1/2 x 28 and OD does not seem keen to do me one with this thread.
It would be the first they have done for a magnum bolt gun, I don't mind being a guinea pig but I am not prepared to chop anything off the barrel nor have it rethreaded as then I would loose the ability to use the brake. I want to be able to use both. It was left long for a reason. The only reason I want to be able to use a suppressor is for when the dog is with me. Her hearing is buggered enough with out me wrecking it more :D
They certainly seem to the business though
This is interesting. Maybe a property of the titanium being super stiff and vibrating more than a ductile steel can? Would be interesting to see accelerometer results showing vibrations of a titanium vs steel can.Quote:
it loosens up sometimes even after doing it up super tight.
Someone else may have to do them there tests daggers! Well beyond me I barely understand what you're talking about!
Then again - I would expect the steel in your barrel to heat up faster than the titanium in the suppressor, so as the barrel heats up, it expands faster than the suppressor and should self tighten.
The suppressor does have a lot more surface area vs mass so should absorb a lot more of the heat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daggers_187
They get super hot quite fast but don't sag. They have been fall auto tested in Canada if I recall correctly.
Just a note had a blast with it last night, decided not to be a wuss (fear of stripping thread) and crank the bloody thing right up real tight. Problem solved!
just had a look at the 556 OD suppressor on nzar15 says 230grams yet the dpt is 192grams why the hell would you buy the OD one ? or am i missing something ?
The DPT suppressor that weighs 192 grams is a can suppressor and about twice as long forward of the muzzle as the ODL and I don't think it is really intended for use on a semi-autoQuote:
Originally Posted by turner nz
Titanium vs alloy. takes a lot more of a beating, wouldn't run alloy on an AR if you intend to do a higher rate of fire.
IMHO you should research a bit more about the Suppressors you may be interested, if they will service your needs, how they are made, how "modified" they can be, etc.
ask all the manufactures for the especifications and for what and how they can be used.
Research more, I did it.
All the best.
think i like the price of my dpt and i'll buy another for my bolt gun. cant really justify the price of a titanium one plus rapid fire doesn't interest me. but everyones entitled to there own needs/wants
You mean you would really buy a suppressor based solely on how much it weighs???? Yeah, you are missing something....... :huh:Quote:
Originally Posted by turner nz
well thanks for elaborating.... but yeah that would be on top of my list. not to mention the cost
the dpt modular are well made little units effective enough to be usefull in suppressing and light as can be without going POP
In the past we made several 556 cans for different rifles set ups. If you check our site, the Samson model has always been in the 172 gram weight range while the one you are referring to is being discontinued. I am modifying the new Samson to do the work of both cans with the weight reducing to around 165 grams and the length forward increasing slightly. It will only overlap the barrel by 45mm. If you want light weight and an overlapping barrel design, this one is pretty light and the new design should be tested in a week for sound. It is only designed for semi auto use, not full auto. I have other cans available for full auto or burst fire.Quote:
Originally Posted by turner nz
Thanks to everyone for all the nice comments on the cans!
You seem to be out of your previous models, and in the middle of developing new ones @ODL ?Quote:
Originally Posted by ODL
What is the redesign all about, what models and calibre's will be offered and when will they be available...?
Cheers
Yes, a lot of development work is in process. The 556 Samson has been around for quite a while and is a very good can. Digit has my last one in stock. Next week the new 556-45 Samson will be finished. I am reducing the OAL of the can, reducing the amount over the barrel and increasing the amount in front of the barrel. The primary idea is to reduce the inventory requirements and provide smaller lighter cans. At the same time I am updating the baffles with all the latest research. The goal is to provide the best sound in the least weight/ least size with minimum increase in back pressure and the ability to provide semi auto rates of fire.
I am just finishing off the pistol can which will be in stock next week (and is currently in one retailers store) for 9mm and will have the 9mm sub gun can in as well. I have not finished off the work on the 762 and blackout can but I have 6 different ones built for testing. The QD is offshore being tested by people with full auto and better ammo budgets than I have so I will get some really good feedback and have these QD units available for the public soon. These are real QD units that lock on with a 60 degree twist, not a brake mounted thread device.
*polishing eftpos card in anticipation*
You going to do a mid calibre version of say the 7.62?
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7.62 and down
Say 6.5mm and down?
Must be some efficiency for the medium cals to do that?
@ODL
Maybe, I will probably have to prove to myself at least if it is worth it or not. Stocking too many parts gets expensive!
OK thanks
... have you been testing the 7.62 cans on smaller calibre's and how effectively do they perform... what sort of loss of efficiency do you get with a 30 cal hole using something smaller like a 243 or a 6.5x55?
It would be nice to have one 30 cal can effectively transferrable between 7.62 - 6mm with individual QD fittings on each rifle.....is that realistic?
Glad I have been a slack bastard getting a suppressor @ODL your new ones sound just the thing - ready next week you reckon?
A qd 9mm subgun can sounds like what I need!
OK so I have a LW profile barrel where the diameter of the barrel section between muzzle and gas port is stepped down
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Using an over-barrel suppressor like an @ODL one the only point of contact will be the muzzle thread and the over barrel section will just be free-floating. Not ideal I guess?
It'll still work
I'd prefer a locking QD can though
I'm guessing that's a dd lightweight barrel. If so I also have one,and have run a odl can on it to try it out on the theory that it would be no worse than can style suppressor.
Yup its a DD lightweight barrel - I cant see it being a huge issue and like you say it can't be any worse than a can ...Quote:
Originally Posted by res
The difference is that you can use a Belleville washer or etc with a muzzle can to prevent it loosening, you can't with overbarrel.
Fair call and TBH the Waitaki can is looking pretty good at $250Quote:
Originally Posted by gimp
Good point,that said I had no problem with it coming loose and I assumed it is designed to use the blast of gas from the shot to tighten up every shot.
Only ran aprox fifty rounds to try it out as the suppressor normally lives on another rifle that needs the weights saving a lot more!
Would be interesting to have the maker chime in on this....
I had the first one of the Waitaki muzzle cans, I think forum member 199P has it now, it worked very well for the priceQuote:
Originally Posted by Shamus
Yeah it's not a huge problem but it is one considerationQuote:
Originally Posted by res
I fully expect to be able to run a 762 can between all the smaller calibers. I don't know how much difference in sound will happen when a larger bore can is on a smaller caliber. I don't think the difference will matter to most people but I need to test it so that people are aware and can make that choice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sidney
To answer a few other questions:
Res, I won't have a 9mm QD out for a while. The QD will be for 762 to 556 at first with big bore next.
Shamus, the over barrel design will work fine with that barrel. It just will not provide as much room for the can coming unscrewed before getting loose. The further over the barrel it goes (with close contact) the less likely the can will be out of alignment since it will only wobble til it hits the barrel at the aft end.
I vent the gas that comes out right after the bore in a spiral that is intended to tighten the can. In practice, it is not always effective. I made the first QD with a similar spiral and it definitely tightened without the can to the point that if installed loose, it would need a spanner to get off after a mag.
