Obviously we’re in different categories but the optima series rock a brake end cap.
Does anyone have experience with both and what’s their opinion.
Cheers
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Obviously we’re in different categories but the optima series rock a brake end cap.
Does anyone have experience with both and what’s their opinion.
Cheers
Brakes work by directing high pressure muzzel gasses away from centerline reducing the rocket effect.
Suppressors work by expanding and cooling those high pressure gasses so they exit more slowly.
In my mind a brake on the end of a suppressor is going to do very little other than perhaps make it a bit noiser.
But I would love to see some scientific testing results.
the suppressor will help your hearing last a bit longer,the brake will ensure you always go hunting alone and may or may not still be able to hear the sweet nothings your nearest n dearest whispers to you in the wee small hours...what more needs one to know???
Like stop snoring and give the bloody blankets back between you and the cat there's no room left for me, that sort of thing?
Christ Mickey, who the hell shoots a brake with no ear protection??? A fool that who... :XD:Quote:
Originally Posted by Micky Duck
I have seen it suggested as OK here on this forum.......agree 100% a plurry fool.... but if you have a brake,you will either have it fitted or in day bag so naked muzzle for the bumped animal.... once blasted twice shy..... you can stick your "loundeners" where the sun doesnt shine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mathias
I have no experience with a suppressor with brake built-in, however, I'm thinking it may well be more of a 'marketing' thing than actually that functional (as a brake) - This is however only my opinion based on no experience on said suppressor.
However, i do run T2 brakes on several rifles, and i do also run DPT suppressors on others. Also have a common NZ made Radial brake that i have used on one rifle, and have used a similar brake on a mates light weight 7mm SAUM (a sister rifle of mine which i run with a DPT)
If you want to reduce the recoil of a heavy recoiling rifle to basically nil, and no muzzle jump at all, no matter how light the rifle, then a Terminator brake is the go, they work insanely well.
BUT you must make sure you never fire it without decent flanged ear plus fitted. If LR target shooting, this is easy obviously, however in a hunting situation when things can happen quickly and you can get caught out with plugs hanging around your neck (as you were trying to communicate with another) and the deer suddendly appears on a clearing again for a split second, and you take the shot before it disappears again with your plugs still hanging around your neck, it is not good. I highly recommend not doing that. I wasnt consciously aware i didn't have them in, I'd taken them out to talk on the UHF to my hunting mate further up the hill above me to see if he could still see the deer.
I instantly regretted it, very sore ringing ears that continued like that for the rest of the day until i woke the next morning, i instantly knew i would have damaged my hearing forever. So moral of the story is when using braked rifles while hunting you need to be EXTRA careful and mindful of this. The meat animal spiker wasnt worth it.
On the range or field target shooting i wear plugs with muffs over if i can when running a brake.
I run a suppressor with a brake on the end.
It definitely works but not as effective as a dedicated brake. I like it and would buy another one.
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Thankyou @GWH it is refreshing to hear (pun intended) some HONEST feedback on just how bad they can be if you dont fit ear protection.....
you fellas recal episode of NZ Hunter when ??Taurarua hunter??? fired the big 7mm with brake fitted, from above Greg to collect one of group of yearlings young Willie was dealing to with .222??????? Greg was not a happy camper.....the footage that didnt make it to air could have been colourful ....
Reason I wear electronic earmuffs with my braked rifle. Can talk with them on and block the bag pretty effectively when need to.Quote:
Originally Posted by GWH
My E-Muffs are obviously not as good as yours, ive tried that once with the brake and will never do it again, it was like the muffs didnt react fast enough and it hurt my ears. Always plugs for me now when hunting with the brake.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mathias
I use a grade 5 I think? E muff when on range duty,while the muffs are good I also wear plugs and turn up the gain to hear someone talking normally at the other end of the benches and not be bothered with a big braked magnum shooting next to me while shooting myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by GWH
Those wee thin elec muffs most people have are fine for occasional use or used as basicly hearing aids but arnt up to snuff for constant exposure.
This is the Optima muzzle brake attachment mentioned by the OP for those who were wondering:
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They work more than a suppressor and less than a brake.
From my personal experience.
Thanks guys. The comments regarding my post are appreciated, the pointless comments regarding the dislike of brakes not so much.
Brakes have a place just as suppressors do. I use both and like @GWH I’ve had the misfortune of the same mistake.
Basically the gist of the post was due to recoil of a 300win mag and exploring the possibility of achieving both suppression and recoil control.
I have an Atec MegaHertz 2 with both styles of end baffle. ie Just suppressor and suppressor/muzzle brake on my 6.5SAUM
I cant tell much difference between them by ear or perceived recoil. If the brake one is slightly less recoil it will only be as result of extra weight of brake bit on cap.
Looks cool mind and is not that the most important thing!!! :D
Friend uses the optima with brake on his 300wm, he also has a T2 which hasn’t been put on the rifle for a long time because of the noise/blast it is certainly very effective. The braked optima is very effective, negligible muzzle rise and low recoil, he can spot his own bullet splashes. I’ve been thinking of getting the brake attachment for mine to help spot my own shots.
I was comparing my T3 brake vs the ATEC PRS mod3 on a 6GT with a heavy Palma barrel.Quote:
Originally Posted by 300_BLK
The brake is the best for spotting one’s own fall of shot, the hardy stealth was quieter than the PRS can/brake but the PRS had more recoil reduction than the stealth.
The PRS has directional ports and is much heavier than the stealth so that will contribute, at the shooters ear it made a woosh sound compared to a pssh of the stealth.
It was most notable when firing from a tripod standing.
I have ordered a optima 50 with brake for hunting with a 264 win mag
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Between yourself and @Plinky you’ve answered most of my questions :)Quote:
Originally Posted by 300_BLK
Expensive kit but they do look like they have a place.
Cheers guys
https://sus-tac.co.za/index.php/products/test-5
This is ugly as sin itself, but worth a look.
Those suppressor + break deals are just schoolboys compared to the 'Smuzzel' https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/...essor-smuzzle/
Mate……that video. Holy shit lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Moa Hunter
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Originally Posted by Micky Duck
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