Yep need them they wont issue you with one otherwise ive been refused on that a few times now so i just have all the details with me now
Yep need them they wont issue you with one otherwise ive been refused on that a few times now so i just have all the details with me now
And why argue yes maybe it is tecnicly not requied but how hard is it to give them the details honestly and its not realy worth worrieing about theres far bigger fish to fry than worrieing about weather the police ask you for sellers details or not
As a seller Im someone who wouldnt want to just hand over my address where guns r kept to a perfect stranger. Not all strangers are bad but not taking that risk.. so i want to make sure the police stop asking.
All police are strangers to me?
Boom, cough,cough,cough
This illustrates clearly and conciesely why I cant be bothered ordering online.
the way it was put to me is they check the fal of the seller on the computer to make sure everything matches up remember that these police that are on desk duty are not firearms experts.... they are not arms officers they are normal cops who happened to be on shift in the office (after hours) they bring up the form it askes for sellers details they will ask you for those details so if as you say they are not needed then they need to get rid of that section of the form I never ask the seller for the address only name and fal number and the police look up the address on the computer using that info that way it gives the seller piece of mind that I am who I say I am and im not going to come and rip them off
You mean to say that the police actually have firearm experts? Must keep them hidden in the cells I havent met one yet. Although some of the nicest firearm collections I believe are owned by AOs. must have a good source of supply?
Boom, cough,cough,cough
Maybe the form just needs a quick update, with "(Optional)" next to the seller's section, and also possibly the list of arms and ammunition. By the look of things it just needs the buyers details, the date, and the officer's badge number and contact number.
Or just go to an opt-in online database accessible through say, gunshops, cop shops, JPs etc, and just do a search of the buyers number as supplied and see if he does in fact have a license. The buyer would need to 'activate' himself for a set period on the database so he can be checked on (Fortnight maybe?), seller checks at their end, tah-dah
FAL not required if your selling Ammo. Police Manual section 1.36
Ammunition
A person who sells/supplies ammunition does not require a Firearms Licence. A person in
possession of ammunition does not require a Firearms Licence, but must possess it for
lawful, proper and sufficient purpose (Section 45, Arms Act 1983).
That's not what 43a is for, it's to check the purchaser does. Also, if someone doesn't have a (current) license, and they sell it someone who does, and they check that they do, is that a problem?
No. The issue here is that the obstructions seem to be on the other side of the desk. I obey the law, so should they.
Eh? What does that have to do with it? Unlicensed holders don't go down the police station and fill out a form, they buy the rifle off Joe down the pub, or get them in burglaries
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