Sam @The Claw has one I think
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Sam @The Claw has one I think
I've got a Vudoo V22 repeater and a 360 repeater in transit - Not sure when I'll set eyes on it with all these lock downs!
Here's 150 shots at 50 yesterday in the wind - four lots of ammo - two shooters. First three groups bottom left were foulers/sighters from a clean bore. 3 from the next 135 shots outside the circles which are 18MM OD.
https://i.imgur.com/wPO2cPB.jpg
Yep, I have 1 and know of at least 5 or 6 more about the country.
Awesome bit of kit. Expensive yes, but for not much more than a custom action I got a Vudoo (bartlein) barrelled action and 4 mags which I shoot far more than any custom/match rifle I have. Its great to practice (if I ever do) with something that is very familiar to my match set up (same trigger, chassis, mag size, bolt action and same scope on it).
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have put the big scope on the 22 over lockdown, has been a bloody treat.
Rifle is a T1x in a KRG Bravo and it shoots a dream. It's used more for PRS training type shooting
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My v22, no groups sorry as I seem to only shoot gongs with it
Pictures of completed targets are the only thing that count on this thread . . . lets see what you guys can do on the target, shooting the test with these fancy rigs!!
@Tentman , will do when we get out of this bloody Lockdown
With lockdown going to level 3 here some of the gunshops opened with click and collect. Greg at Custom Guns was the "first door open" so I decided to reward that and buy a new rifle with the wage subsidy money our dear leaders dish out. Gotta spend it to make it go round.
I looked at 3 rifles under $1000 - a Ruger American Rimfire Std, Ruger American Target and a CZ 457 Std model. I left the shop with the RAR std, but by the time I'd got home I had buyers remorse . . . went back, paid some more $$ and left with the Ruger Armerican Rimfire Target.
The RART was the best finished and smoothest of the lot. Its very nicely balanced with a just right barrel weight and length. Borrowed a 1/2x28 suppressor off @Kiwi-Hunter .
Chucked on an old 4-16 AO scope and started shooting. Results at first weren't all that great, but after a bit of research I'd polished the firing mechanism parts (which are simple and very nicely designed on this rifle) and figured that action screw tension was going to be critical with the way this rifle is bedded (its usually pretty important on any 22).
After about 200 rounds "sent" I was starting to get a feel for it and its initial vertical stringing habit was coming under control.
Here it is in its current setup . .
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And this is the sort of results its producing with the sorts of ammo I go to once I feel a rifle is starting to "shoot"
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Ammo "codes" are ES= Eley subsonic HP white box (this particular lot is the Fiocchi labed stuff), EM- Eley Match, EC = Eley Club, RWS RT = RWS Target Rifle, RWS PM = RWS Pistol Match, and S&B is Sellier and Bellot Subsonic HP.
The S& B was a revelation, I don't recall a "hunting ammo" that will give better 10 shot groups than "match ammo" (yes CCI will shoot the occasional small group, but you very seldom see 10 and 50 shot strings without several fliers)
So I took a wee break and shot the 5x5x50 test and here are the "informal" results, no doubt @rambo6mmrem will have an official score up soon on the other thread.
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Now that was a fathers day morning well spent!!
Cheers
For you @Tentman - and other Norinco EM332 owners... Yes the rumours are true - they can shoot beautifully esp at longer range.
I don't shoot competitions any more - haven't for ages - and I don't bother shooting 100m targets with 22s. However, from time to time when shooting in wee hunter 22s at 50m or 75m, I'll wander down and put up a few dots on the backing paper at 100m to check accuracy and bullet drop. Can't access my target data from photobucket now but found this target scrap from back of the drawer of my wee Norinco EM332 shooting consecutive set of sub 1" groups at 100m:
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Found three such scraps - all with consecutive groups averaging under inch at 100m with best average of 0.6". Superbly accurate wee rifle at 100 with PMC Match (black packet), Aguila Superextra HV, and Winchester Expert Target. The one hole group is a cherry-picked one from 50m - it would pop these occasionally - but more common average was 0-3-0.4". This wee Norinco cost me $247 then, and was tested with its stock Kilwell Huntsman 3-9x40. Kick myself now - wish I'd put a good 4-16 on it to get precision results at 100m - though they may not have been better.
Its 100m shooting would easily beat most expensive 22s. A wee challenge for the rimfire guys when you're next out at the range. Pop four consecutive groups down at 100m, all under 1 inch, and beat the Em332's 0.69" average. $247 :P
Tried a few groups at 100m
Really likes Eley match but CCI standard goes pretty well to. bloody happy with under MOA at 100m for a pea shooter
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Here's my two with the latest acquisition in front.
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Back: Tikka T1x, 20" barrel, DPT suppressor, KRG Bravo chassis. Vortex Crossfire II 6-24x50 scope.
Front: Ruger 10/22 with KIDD 2 stage trigger, KIDD fluted bull barrel and MDT LSS chassis. EOtech 512 holographic weapon sight.
Below are some groups at 50m with the T1x. I took out the 10/22 for a shoot today and it was fairly promising, but the optic I have on it is for fun and not precision. It wouldn't be fair to show groups for that one just yet!
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Nice shooting with the T1X
@Rush my suggestion would be to buy the cheapest 10/22 you can find for the red dot
The kidd is a sub moa rifle and the red dot just won’t let it do what it’s Designed to do
Put a big target style scope on that kidd it really Deserves it
Obviously that’s my opinion only
I've been recently tempted by the Tippmann M4-22. I think the EOTech would go well on one of those. I aim to get a scope with decent magnification and side focus/adjustable objective on the Kidd.
awesome!!!!
great thread - really keen to practice a lot more 22lr shooting - will be setting up a bit more of a formal private range at home in the near future. Currently shooting a pretty basic 10/22 sporter delux model, only upgrades are a BX trigger, DPT suppressor and a pretty basic Bushnell 1.5-4.5 scope which i'll look to replace.
Have been keen on an RPR as I have it's big brother tucked in my safe...
@Tentman the 541t is an extremely good rifle
i have something i think might give the classic class a run for its money
its a carl gustof single shot target rifle and is probably the most accurate 22 ive ever shot including the modern ones
I don't think there is any doubt that a "target rifle" of just about any era will shoot at least as well if not better than 99% of sporters, for a start a heavy barrel is a heck of an advantage in shooting a 22 well and consistently. I've had a modified Vickers Martini 22 target rifle (with a modern thumbhole stock and scope) for over 30 years that is consistently the most accurate 22 I've ever come across. I haul it out occasionally when I want to test a batch of ammo, or just reassure myself I can still shoot. I won't shoot in in any sort of "competition" like this for two reasons, - I prefer the challenge to shoot genuine sporting rifles, and I might be horribly disappointed if I got beat with it!!
I really am looking forward to shooting the 541T. In 1980 on Friday "late night shopping" I used to go up to Din Collings shop in Karori and hang out with him and his lovely wife Viv. Din was very free with his time and it was possible to learn a hell of a lot talking with him. He had a Remington 541S on the rack that I wanted badly, but he talked me out of it, explaining that it was cheap roll engraving and that there was a superior model - the 541T. He convinced me to wait till one turned up - well Din is long passed and during the ensuing 40 years I've only had one or two opportunities at a 541T ,and until @Tedz50 was kind enough to offer me his, I have't had one. Proves all good things come to those who wait!
Yay - moving targets . . . . running lamb anybody ??
@Tentman
the 541t is a pretty heavy barrel
my mate part swaped his for an annie 1712 so he doesn't have it any more but i can tell you it was extremely accurate 0.2 and 0.3 at 50 the norm with the right ammo
I think they are selling both empty primed cases + projectiles.
Yeah probably although it’s not that difficult to re prime cases
Hey mate - I have one for sale at the moment if you were interested
https://www.nzhuntingandshooting.co....2-elite-75540/
Here’s the rifle i plan to enter into the classic class when I can get out shooting something I can do in level 3 but the weather is shit
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Is that a 1808EDS??? Not many of those about! I have one and it is a lovely little rim fire.
https://i.imgur.com/5z6Y2q6.jpg
@HJA8 wouldn’t have a clue
It’s a carlgustof is all I know doesn’t have a model stamped on it
It’s Scary accurate is all I know like 1/2moa at 100 all day in clam conditions
No wonder I couldn't recognize that stock configuration - I have never seen one of those! No doubt about it, the Europeans had the game sewn up in the 60-80's era when it came to building quality 22 competition rifles.
@HJA8
ive never seen another one ether
i think they must be pretty rare poped up on trademe one day and my mate who is absolutely as an acute addiction to 22's brought it
its got the best trigger ive shot its not the lightest trigger ive shot (around 1lb)but its got absolutely no creep or over travel and just breaks like absolute glass its honestly the trigger everyone dreams of for a target rifle
one very interesting thing is the bolt has a click adjustable knob on the back that adjusts head space so if you are running super consistent ammo you can run a slightly tighter head space to suit or looser for cheap practice ammo also has 2 bolts you you can set up for 2 ammo's
not sure if it come with 2 from the factory or if the previous owner was lucky enough to get another but its a nice touch
when my mate got it it was covered in stickers that you get when you win or shoot prefect 5 from 5's in silhouette comps for some reason he took them off i would have left them on as its the rifles life story as such
im only the temporary custodian of this rifle still belongs to my mate however he has been talking if selling so i might make that permanent i think
This is why I like to lot test ammo. When I find something half decent, it will usually shoot well in most of my rifles.
150 shots of SK Rifle Match - 5 different 22's - 50 metres outdoors. And yes, the Lithgow is still the most accurate general purpose 22 I've owned to date!
The Anschutz 1710 DHB Classic is perhaps my favourite rimfire - Look good in a traditional way, nice action, function well and accurate! I've owned a number of these but the two pictured here are my "keepers".
https://i.imgur.com/bvhUz0M.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/UPdzw4p.jpg
HJA8,
Factory barrel on the Lithgow? Any mods, trigger etc to get it shooting well?
No Mate, it's a match chambered Maddco. Action is bedded, trigger worked, head spaced for Lapua. Another build done for me by Rolf Hey in Hobart. I have another LA101 bedded into a Hatcher stock - Trigger work & re-crown. It's every bit as good as my 1710's. I've said this plenty of times - If I had to keep one 22 for me and my wife, it would be the Lithgows.
planing on buying a Lithgow this year ended up buying that calgustof above yesterday aswell
Bet you're excited about that! Talking of triggers on these old Euro. rifles, here's the triggers on my Walther & Anschutz - Both works of art which compare favourably with just about anything available to-day.
https://i.imgur.com/5Sj0G9s.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/oLXKjVr.jpg