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Rifle only really gets taken out for special occasions, farm hunting etc so I've been thinking a bit lately I should make it properly look the part since a few purists have scoffed at the current Talleys and Euro scope on it.
So what is the "proper" setup for a rifle like this? Leupold bases and twist-in rings and an old redfield/weaver/leupold?
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Definitely Buehler or conetrol mounts for such a lovely rifle. I have a new base of both types here and conetrol rings.
Nice rifle, nice scope - and together I'd say they just work hey? And the issue with it is what exactly?
Not mine
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/marketpl...5?bof=BnxPp24u
It will come in handy if you want to use period correct tender to complete the purchase of the scope. It should be sufficient regardless of whether the seller observes period correct inflationary values, or todays collectable value of this note.
If you want it to represent a package deal someone might have bought from Tisdalls, an old Lyman 2.5x would look like you didn't deliberately do it retrospectively. But any Leupold/Weaver fixed 4x or fixed 6x would be my first cast. Authentic and should still be servicable too.
Weaver bases and clip over rings with Leupold on top.
I think there are a set of the Talley grooved bases here (nothing like what you have now). Gunworks have the correct rings but they are horribly expensive . . . My pre 64 M70 has "turn in" bases, they should be about as the post 64s used the same ones. Plenty of rings for them here.
Just tagged you on gloss weaver.
Iv'e got an older Burris signature select 2-8 would look good, decent glass as well.
Weaver K-4 /Alaskan with Conetrol mounts.
Looks fine the way it is. Who cares if purists scoff? As long as you like using it what does it matter?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan_Songhurst
Beautiful rifle by the way.
Marcus
I actually like the idea of it being "all american" since it is an iconic American rifle. If i was looking at it purely as a hunting tool I wouldn't care because yes, it works very well as is.
This is the proper mount of the period :
https://images.gunsinternational.com...A921655FCE.jpg
My uncle bought an original Winchester 70 pre64 in 264 win mag, and that was the exact same mount on it with the Bausch and lomb scope.
I think I might be able to locate the same bases at least
I've got one of the Leupold copies of the "Alaskan" and it's a pretty decent scope compared with lots of the older ones. It's a 7/8 tube which is a bugger but it ain't going anywhere (except on my next special old time rifle build)
I have an older Redfield 3-9x40 I would be prepared to do you a straight swap :thumbsup:
Maybe some inspiration here:
https://www.outdoorlife.com/jack-oco...fect-model-70/
Marcus
The classic scope of that period was the Lyman All-American. But unless you can source a pristine example why would you wish to handicap the rifle with a less than perfect example.
The Lyman Alaskan , which had a name for itself way way back is not nowadays up to scratch. That was typical of all they had back then.
I like the rifle the way it is. The scope on it is nicely sized and the optics beat those old scopes hands down.
Yep, modern glass coating technology is so far ahead of what they had back then that it would not be a step forward to change it out for a 'period' scope in my viewpoint. Better to leave it with the current scope and have it much more effective and useable.
I think a few of you are missing the point I don't really care about having the latest and greatest on this rifle as long as it's functional, it might go farm hunting a couple of times a year and lob a few chip shots at some easy deer. It's more a keepsake and a conversation piece and as such I'd kind of like to have it stick to a theme. Have managed to find a couple of Leupold steel tube Alaskan scopes on Ebay but both 2.5x, I'd really like to find one in 4x.
There is a fixed 6x for sale in the BST section that would do the business...
Edit: it is SPF.
I like your idea in keeping it 'in period'.
I bought 4 pre 64 model 70's from a collection a few years back.....one was a 1939 30'06......
Posted pics of it up on a US gun forum that I was a member of........without exception, all the members agreed that it should look 'in period'.........and one of them donated a pre WWII K4 Weaver along with the correct rings. Sighted it in and took it on a balloted fallow hunt in Woodhill. Shot a Fallow buck at 110m. It only gets to go hunting when its an easy hunt as the rifle is in pristine condition and I would hate to mark it........but it does get taken out of the safe, fondled and admired a lot.
Am looking for an early 60's scope for the early 60's super grade 270 which has a Monte Kennedy stock.
The mid 50's 308 Featherweight has a 'Scope Chief' period correct, scope mounted on it.....Another gift from a friend in the USA.
Will post up pics if you want to see them on monday...( have to work charters this weekend.)
Vintage leupold maybe?
Conetrol mounts were about back then and are a nice touch.
Even if twist in redfield type.
Weavers might be classic but nicer ones about. Weaver also made see though rings and if you put those abominations on it you need the bash.
Depends how far back classic means.
There is that supplier in the states that sells vintage scopes. Refurbished, rebuilt etc.
Might be good inspiration
I agree with No 3 whats is wrong with that setup really nice-- bugger what others say - use itQuote:
Originally Posted by No.3
How about a 4x Redfield in great condition? I have one for sale.
https://pre64win.com/products/leupol...e-gloss-finish
I've got one of these sitting around I likely won't use not as old as the steel tube buy might work for you. It's pretty tidy if your interested let me know and I can dig it out and put up some pics
When I owned your Winny, it had a 6x gloss Leupold in gloss steel Redfield/Leupold mounts. This set up is post '60s but pretty correct for when this rifle was likely put together 70/80's with its custom features. The custom rifles section of Gun Digest was full of these set-ups. The Leupold is the "best looking" scope they ever made imo. Those low profile caps are beautiful.
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@Ryan_Songhurst I think you need these
New old stock 60s Leopold Detacho-Mount rings and bases 211 and 316
The 316 rear base has the adjustable peep in it for when the scope and rings are off
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Comes with full instructions for the technically challenged
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Throw a Leupold gloss something like these on it and you are done
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And get some bloody open sights on it so it's not mistaken for a modern repop
And so you're not tempted to thread it for a suppressor
I've got open sights for it but yes those mounts and an old gloss 2-7 or 4x something would be perfectQuote:
Originally Posted by akaroa1
Those old steel tube leupolds are beautiful but hard to find rings for if I'm not mistaken they're 7/8"?
Oh the 7/8" Loupold is mint and NFS
I have accumulated several sets of new old stock 7/8" scope mounts and bases
But have as yet not found a project that is the right type and size for it.
It will have to be something special
You really want an M8 4x on that rifleQuote:
Originally Posted by Ryan_Songhurst
