Thread: Question on my first AR.

Originally Posted by Jexla

No matter it's configuration full stop, if it's registered as an E cat firearm no one but the endorsed person can legally shoot it. It's as simple as that.

There is no such legal thing as a "registered E Cat".

The Arms Act only refers to the transfer or possession of MSSAs, not for the transfer or possession of "registered E Cats".

A MSSA is defined as:

Arms Act 1983
2 Interpretation
military style semi-automatic firearm means a firearm (other than a pistol) that is—
(a) a semi-automatic firearm having 1 or more of the following features:
(i) a folding or telescopic butt:
(ii) a magazine designed to hold 0.22-inch rimfire cartridges that—
(A) is capable of holding more than 15 cartridges; or
(B) is detachable, and by its appearance indicates that it is capable of holding more than 15 cartridges:
(iii) a magazine (other than one designed to hold 0.22-inch rimfire cartridges) that—
(A) is capable of holding more than 7 cartridges; or
(B) is detachable, and by its appearance indicates that it is capable of holding more than 10 cartridges:
(iv) bayonet lugs:
(v) a flash suppressor:
(vi) a component of a kind defined or described by an order under section 74A as a pistol grip for the purposes of this definition; or
(b) a semi-automatic firearm of a make and model declared by an order under section 74A to be a military style semi-automatic firearm for the purposes of this Act; or
(c) a semi-automatic firearm of a description declared by an order under section 74A to be a military style semi-automatic firearm for the purposes of this Act; or
(d) a semi-automatic firearm that has a feature of a kind defined or described in an order under section 74A as a feature of military style semi-automatic firearms for the purposes of this Act

If the firearm does not possess any of those features, it by definition, is not a MSSA. It is a firearm.

The law no longer requires that firearms or MSSAs remain in that configuration "at all times".

The third flaw is that the definition of ‘sporting configuration’ has been removed. Under the old law, a semi automatic firearm was either a MSSA or in sporting configuration.

These two physical feature configurations were ‘locked in’ by the phrase ‘at all times.’

With the demise of ‘sporting configuration at all times’, a MSSA rifle can now be removed from it’s legal definition by simply taking off the parts that constitute the defined physical features.

Arms Act changes flawed folly - stuff-nation | Stuff.co.nz

So where is the restriction on using a 'registered E Cat" under the supervision of a licence holder in the Arms Act?

Support your claim/interpretation.

Originally Posted by dogmatix

Or do what I do, have a separate spare A-Cat thumbhole stocked lower receiver for my E-Cat rifles, swap the lower out and take off the flash hider, use 7 shot mags and its a complete A-Cat rifle.

Off topic but what handguard is that on the middle rifle?

Originally Posted by Rwt

Off topic but what handguard is that on the middle rifle?

@Rwt the middle shortie 11.5" build has the Mid West SS Gen 1 free float rail. That one is 9".
Wanted the slimmer Gen 2, but had to get the Gen 1 to have clearance over the JP adjustable gas block.

The unfitted other rail is the factory Schmeisser 2 piece rail.

Originally Posted by dogmatix

@Rwt the middle shortie 11.5" build has the Mid West SS Gen 1 free float rail. That one is 9".
Wanted the slimmer Gen 2, but had to get the Gen 1 to have clearance over the JP adjustable gas block.

The unfitted other rail is the factory Schmeisser 2 piece rail.

Did you manage to get it in NZ or did you have to import it?

Locally from On-Target.co.nz.
NZAR15.com also used to sell them, only seems to have Gen 3 now.