Thread: Questions about a new farm gun

I'm no dairy farmer and ive only ever shot two beefys and they were both at about 50cm with a .22 . They both dropped like a sack of spuds... I can internalise the reason for discouraging rimfires on large animals. As the more energy the better. Have you seen cows not humanely killed with a 22?
Is it just shot placement the problem? 40g of lead at over 1000fps has. Penetrated bone/ brain no problems in my experience.. I'm not condoning it as I agree a center fire would be better.

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He uses it to shoot the odd cow/calf, cat but mostly hares, rabbits and possums. Its a dairy farm with alot of small hills & hedges so line of sight is never more than 100m and noise is definitely something that needs to be taken into consideration.
.22 mag .

Originally Posted by deepsouthaussie

I'm no dairy farmer and ive only ever shot two beefys and they were both at about 50cm with a .22 . They both dropped like a sack of spuds... I can internalise the reason for discouraging rimfires on large animals. As the more energy the better. Have you seen cows not humanely killed with a 22?
Is it just shot placement the problem? 40g of lead at over 1000fps has. Penetrated bone/ brain no problems in my experience.. I'm not condoning it as I agree a center fire would be better.

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Yes, I have seen that 40gr of lead literally just disintegrate at point blank range. I have also seen a cow that was shot point blank in the head, then farmer went off to get the tractor to remove the dead cow but came back to said cow, standing with blood pissing out it's nose, mouth, ears, eyes, and very much alive, a bloody sobering sight (and no, it was not me who did the shooting, but it was me who got called to shoot it properly with a rifle fit for the job as the cow was now stumbling around delirious and even point blank was impossible), as said, you can tell me it's fine because it's at point blank range untill you are blue in the face and I still won't accept it. Yes, it works, no, it doesn't work 100% of the time, and to assume it does is not taking every reasonable step to ensure that any suffering is minimised.

Originally Posted by Ryan_Songhurst

Yes, I have seen that 40gr of lead literally just disintegrate at point blank range. I have also seen a cow that was shot point blank in the head, then farmer went off to get the tractor to remove the dead cow but came back to said cow, standing with blood pissing out it's nose, mouth, ears, eyes, and very much alive, a bloody sobering sight (and no, it was not me who did the shooting, but it was me who got called to shoot it properly with a rifle fit for the job as the cow was now stumbling around delirious and even point blank was impossible), as said, you can tell me it's fine because it's at point blank range untill you are blue in the face and I still won't accept it. Yes, it works, no, it doesn't work 100% of the time, and to assume it does is not taking every reasonable step to ensure that any suffering is minimised.

My job as an apprentice was to refurb the stun guns for beef at a Borthwicks plant, .22 blank put down thousands of animals, a very cruel way to do the job. I watch a cow take 8 shots with the 2" spike once, slaughterman had a real sweat on loading and firing. We also had a few go down then get back up once the door had released. Few white faces on the board when they emerged at the top of the ramp! Use to herd them into a chiller and my old man would shot them with a .22 through a purpose fit hole in the roof. He would put s few rounds in before they dropped. The good old days huh!

Originally Posted by Ryan_Songhurst

Yes, I have seen that 40gr of lead literally just disintegrate at point blank range. I have also seen a cow that was shot point blank in the head, then farmer went off to get the tractor to remove the dead cow but came back to said cow, standing with blood pissing out it's nose, mouth, ears, eyes, and very much alive, a bloody sobering sight (and no, it was not me who did the shooting, but it was me who got called to shoot it properly with a rifle fit for the job as the cow was now stumbling around delirious and even point blank was impossible), as said, you can tell me it's fine because it's at point blank range untill you are blue in the face and I still won't accept it. Yes, it works, no, it doesn't work 100% of the time, and to assume it does is not taking every reasonable step to ensure that any suffering is minimised.

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