Two points to this. Toz (new ones) are very good and well on par with many rifles much more expensive. And there are good norincos and bad ones.
I have found the Toz model 78s have been so good I have nearly sold out and only have a few left. (And I do not have any faulty ones left over...all buyers that I know of are happy)
If you a re referring to the Toz 17s then please bear in mind they are 40 years old and more and still shooting well.....
If after a good 22 there are always the likes of CZ as well. Budget and use. From what I have read so far a 22LR is not really up to what he wants.
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