Thread: Redundant Calibres

Whilst sizing some cases [223] I thought about how many calibres have briefly appeared on the shooting front then fade into the distance popularity wise or as a bad marketing exercise....204 Ruger .17 WSM. There are numerous other examples. How many hunters grab the old "traditional " calibres when thinking about a hunt.

44-77 died with the buffalo

7mm-08 isn't dead but I wish I got a .308 for the better ammo selection

Was going to get 7mm08 ended up with a 308 due to more ammo around for it.

I must be 'traditional' as I use 7x57 and 222 for hunting.
(don't own any of the new calibres).

BB

Greetings all,
Redundant is a funny word. Its meaning has come to mean something that is no longer required as in a person being made redundant. Generally the word means something that is excess of normal which does not help us much but could be applied to some of the behemoth cartridges that have appeared in recent years. The thrust of @TeRei opening post, clearly stated, is who shoots the old and less appreciated cartridges. Well me for one. Looking in my rifle cupboard there are more for cartridges with origins prior to 1900 than after and only one 21st century cartridge. Provided usable cases can be sourced or made together with projectiles and a sound firearm all cartridges can live on, even the 44-77, regardless of how redundant, obsolete or outdated they may seem to others.
Regards Grandpamac.
PS I must take my Martini .30-40 Krag to the range this Sunday. Perhaps I could use it in a 300 yard F Class shoot one day.

Originally Posted by muzza

Redundant is a term used by inventers/sellers of new , trendy calibers.

A hole in a target doesnt care if it was made by a new calibre or an old calibre , and the deer you just shot doesnt know the differance between a 270 or a 577/450.

I dont regard my 218 Bee or 219 Donaldson Wasp as being redundant at all , merely just not used as often as they used to be.

Greetings @muzza,
The .218 Bee and .219 Donaldson Wasp are likely better now due to the availability of better projectiles and powders. The Wasp was a bench rest champion prior to 1950.
GPM.

some needed to go - I had a 30M1 carbine for awhile - used when mate and I went pighunting - damn useless caliber--as was the 32-20 - gutless both of them unless the pig was 6 feet away - once tried to shoot a stag at about 80 yards with 30 M1 - took 3 to get it despite all good shots - shame the 7x57 never took off in NZ the way it should have

Originally Posted by TeRei

Whilst sizing some cases [223] I thought about how many calibres have briefly appeared on the shooting front then fade into the distance popularity wise or as a bad marketing exercise....204 Ruger .17 WSM. There are numerous other examples. How many hunters grab the old "traditional " calibres when thinking about a hunt.

I have an acquaintance who goes on and on about the magnificence of the 204 Ruger (despite not having one). Is it any good or not? Can you buy ammo for it at H&F?

Disclaimer: Centrefire I use .308, 30-30 and .223. Rimfire 22LR, 22WMR and 17HMR

Anything you can't find brass or dies for, or will take several agonising steps (amd expensive dies/components) to form.

.308 is basically redundant now we have 6.5crd...

Originally Posted by 16Tontovarish

.308 is basically redundant now we have 6.5crd...

Tell me your joking???

Originally Posted by 16Tontovarish

.308 is basically redundant now we have 6.5crd...

my best quess is that never ever will 6.5 crd replace .308

Without lever actions the 30-30 would be long gone. Same goes for ex-military rifles and the 303.

Originally Posted by 16Tontovarish

.308 is basically redundant now we have 6.5crd...

Show me the wharehouses overflowing with mil surplus 6.5 crudmore....

And the 40 plus different projectile styles available...