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Is there anyone in the South Island who trues/blueprints Remington 700 actions? And is good at it? I don't really want to get it done by someone who "can" do it but isn't known for being good at it. I'd hate for it to get butchered and end up worse than before.
If there isn't anyone down here then I guess who is the best in the North Island? I recall a while back reading something about Dean Maisey being pretty good at it.
Cheers
CT
Gab zyggliani from high country sport did an excellent job on my Winchester 70. Fully blue brined including rear bushing of the bolt to take up any slope. Nice to deal with, honest pricing and immaculate workshop.
He is based in fairlie.
Gabe did my Rem 700 back in 2008. Robbie Tiffen at Gunworks knows what he is doing.
Desert guns- contact him and run it past him what ya want done and he's in Cromwell
Robbie/Gunworks would be ideal as I live in Christchurch. Anyone else have good experiences with them truing actions?
Rang one of the "Gunsmiths" at Gunworks, requesting a professional bedding job be done for my .300 Winchester Magnum, and they told me they can't tackle a job like that, and further led me to believe they're nothing more than over the barrel suppressor experts! :(Quote:
Originally Posted by C.T.
On another occasion I tried to ring Robbie at Gunworks and got Amanda. Asked, can you guys true a Remington 700 Action? And she asked me what that entails... I told her (in my own limited words and understanding) and she said "Ooooh, I don't know... I suppose we could try, but we certainly don't advertise it!" The hair (what little I have left) stood on the back of my head and I decided to just stick with buying stuff over the counter, they're very good for that you know, I've just scored some long awaited bullets oh, and of course, the "Bipod 'O' Death!", so can't complain, can't complain. :)
I think they're pretty good at fluting and lightening Rem 700 bolts though?
Desert Guns, who's the Proprietor?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rock river arms hunter
That's not what I wanted to hear haha! Might give Gunworks a miss for this job! They did a trigger job for me once which I was happy with but yeah when it comes to truing an action i'd prefer someone with a lot of experience doing it who people highly recommend.Quote:
Originally Posted by Remington 5R .300 Win Mag
Hey these guys might be exactly what you're after, but that's just 'my own' personal experience with them!Quote:
Originally Posted by C.T.
Good luck, whichever way you choose, and if you do come across someone competent, let me know, I'd be keen myself!
Harvey Westland is the man for the job and based in Christchurch
Did my Remington 700 and it is very accurate
Yes I think that action blue printing is not gun works speciality. When I visited them years ago and ask them about it, they just don't bother and usually juste chamber and fit their barrel on an action with out further worry. I am not sure they even carry a range of reamers with interchangeable pilots, just fix pilots. 90% of their clients might not want that type of work done anyway. I think they are very good for the services they provide.
Mark McFarlaneQuote:
Originally Posted by Remington 5R .300 Win Mag
Do you have contact details for him? Google didn't turn up anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Echo
Probably a stupid question but what is the advantage in getting this done, is their a significant increase in accuracy over standard, does the improvement justify the cost. If the things a shitter to start might it not be better to return it or on sell and get something that works. Or is it a case of ive got this money to spend and this sounds like a cool idea that i can brag to my mates about and loose money on when i sell it.
Probably a stupid question but what is the point of this, is the original accuracy unacceptable and this will correct it? Or is it to improve already acceptable accuracy, if so do the results justify the cost. I can see the desire to get the last quarter moa out of a target rig but on a hunting rifle?
Pretty much what I was thinking. I have 2 M700s neither was trued before their new barrels were fitted as far as I am aware and both shoot a genuine 1/2 MOAQuote:
Originally Posted by Marty Henry
They are hunting rifles not target rigs. If I were chasing the ultimate accuracy at long distance (1000+ yards) I can see the point but for a hunting rifle at up to 500 yards I spent the money saved on powered / bullets and primers and practiced
If i was chasing the ultimate accuracy at long distance I'd use a different action
Me three....................Quote:
Originally Posted by MSL
Hey Fella before you go down the road of getting someone to accurize your rig for you I'd take a look at Nathan Fosters site at Extensive Field-Tested Rifle & Cartridge Research - BallisticStudies.com you may find on reading this you may either want to use some of the services and they (He and his wife are exceptional in what they do) or you may like me pick up the relevant books and decide step by step how far down the road you will go.
I've used his books getting an exceptional result on my bush rifle 300 Blk Ruger American Ranch (and really easy as it was a glue and screw bedding job for that sorted things best) and other rifles I've thought of bedding I've left alone due to the current inherent accuracy level and the purpose of the job a la my 7mm Rem Mag. I've built skills and identified projects for the future coming from building my own personal knowledge and opinions on what works. But if you just want to get it right! they have a full accurizing service and cartridge development service where they do it all for you.
Worth a look..... Definitely not a typical Gunsmithing approach to job comes in job goes out. Dean M is similar around the accurizing service but be prepared to wait and pay for it there's a hefty Labour component in getting what you want done!!!
Nathans prices on his site are as follows...
Accurising package:
Bed action
Stabilize plastic gun stock if necessary
Tune trigger to 1.5lb
Free float barrel
Lap bore
Test fire with supplied ammunition or reloading components
Araldyte scope bases and fit optics
Develop drop charts for long range rifles
Labour content, regardless of rifle style or configuration averages 35 hours labour.
Price: $800 (plus cost of reloading consumables unless supplied)
Take the journey - you won't be disappointed!!!
Also Nathan write good books and seems to be doing a good job, he is assessing and working with the rifle you give him, often factory one s that needs improving ( and do improve with a good bedding job). He does not build rifle from scratch. He commission them to get built by other competent gunsmiths if you ask him to.
If you are on a new built or a rebarrel and you think to a get a blue printing done, you are already on a custom pathway. (Unless that action is going to be sitting in a very good matching chassis) it should be properly bedded in a stock anyway.
Marty/Mikee, short answer is that in most cases it's probably not necessary and you may not notice the difference on a hunting rig.
Me personally i'm pretty OCD when it comes to accuracy. 1 inch groups aren't good enough for me I want 0.5" or better regardless if it's a hunting or target rig. I just get a real kick out of shooting tiny groups and knowing my rifles are super accurate. Many factory 700's can achieve that out of the box without truing but there are also many that can't. I'm building a .280 AI on a 700 action and I figure if i'm going to spend a lot of money on a nice new barrel like a Kreiger etc. then it's just peace of mind to true the action before screwing that barrel on to make sure everything lines up perfectly as it should which is often not the case from factory. I'd hate to get the gun all set up and it not shoot very well then wonder if the action isn't true after the fact ya know?
It's peace of mind for an extra few hundred dollars to ensure you can get the best out of an expensive barrel. For a regular hunting rifle for people who aren't too fussy then yeah it's probably a waste of time and money unless they are having accuracy problems. In that case they could just sell/swap it for another rifle and try again. For someone building a semi-custom or custom rifle on a factory action who is fussy/OCD about accuracy then I believe it's money well spent. Just my opinion.
CT
Carpe/Friwi thanks for the info i'll take a look.