Thread: Remington accuracy

Laurie will be able to sort it if anyone can.....no reason he cant test fire it for you while he is at it.

@CamFlatt I have had the same issues but not quite as big a spread with the shots probably about 4-5 cm spread. I spoke to @Flyblown and he suggested pillar bedding and free floating the barrel. My rifle a SPS 243 ended up shooting a lot better at around 14-15 mm at 100 yards. If you do this you must be careful drilling out the main screw holes so that the pillars will fit and make sure they are square and not crooked. Cut the pillars so that they are flush with the holes then the action will sit on them and when tightened up they will prevent the stock crushing and give the action a solid base to sit on.
Make sure you remove the plastic bedding blocks under the barrel and make sure the barrel doesn't touch right back to the recoil lug. Run a piece of paper between the stock and barrel and make sure it doesn't touch anywhere along the barrel to the recoil lug.
If all the other suggestions don't improve the accuracy this might just be the answer. I ended up using light steel tube as I couldn't source any alloy tube, the steel works but a bit harder to work than alloy would be and it would be a little heavier but not noticeable. From memory the front pillar was about 19 mm long the rear one was 33 mm.

IF you decide to go the pillar bed route...give me a jingle Ive got HEAPS of arrow shaft here you can pinch a bit no worries.

It'll be interesting to see what difference the gun Smith makes to the accuracy once he's done.

One other thing to check, if scope has a locking ring for adjusting reticle focus, make sure it is tight. I had an issue on my Leupold because the locking ring wasn't tight so front ocular bell was shifting every time under recoil. Good luck

Originally Posted by McNotty

One other thing to check, if scope has a locking ring for adjusting reticle focus, make sure it is tight. I had an issue on my Leupold because the locking ring wasn't tight so front ocular bell was shifting every time under recoil. Good luck

Yep had that as well.
Trick for young players!

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Interesting, never come across that issue!

When I got my first centrefire (Ruger 308) I was having all sorts of problems sighting it in, no consistency and generally about 4" groups. After a box or two of wasted ammo I eventually figured out the issue... the scope mounted by a gun shop was about 20mm too far forward and I was constantly straining my neck forward to look through it, putting a bunch of weird unbalanced tension into my body and pulling shots all over the place. Slid it back to a comfortable position and the groups instantly dropped to about 1.5" with cheap factory ammo.

Funny how obvious that stuff seems with a bit of experience, but as a newbie I had no idea!

Start simple, try different ammo and bullet weight

So I got the local gun Smith to bed and free float the rifle for me. Picked it up this morning, and took it to the range this evening. Conditions weren't the best, but manageable. I was running out of light, so was a but rushed between shots, and there was a bit of a gusty cross breeze. Given more time I think I can get better results, and I would like to try with some different factory ammo too. This was with federal 150gn. I shot two groups of three. The middle two shots were general sighting in before I tried to group. The worst was just shy of 5cm, best just shy of 4cm, and I'm pretty sure I pulled the last wide shot. I'm pretty happy with that, considering I'm not a hugely experienced shooter. It's definitely a dam sight better than the random 20cm group I had before!! I know I could get tighter groups given more time and practice, and possibly different factory ammo, but I'm happy with these groups for hunting. At least I can confidently take a shot out to 300m

I reckon all that horizontal spread is your setup...the vertical spread reflects the guns accuracy...which is pretty damn sharp...

Having read this @CamFlatt don’t store your rifle with the suppressor left on really fast way to stuff your barrel.
May I suggest that you sight in at 25 meters.
Get five shots as tight as. Ie enough to cover the lion on a red can. Help take the wind factor out.
Then move out to the 100 meter mark.
Also read this article https://www.ballisticstudies.com/Kno...at+Forend.html it will help with your shooting technique.
I’m not saying it the be end of how to shoot but it might just take that out of the equation. You have taken it to a smith, which is a good place to start. But as suggested above get someone else to come and shoot it. They will also give there 10cents worth but you will at lest take any shooting errors that you maybe committing again out of the equation. Maybe your Smith shot it? If so then do you have that target?
Just a few more ideas for you
Good luck keep us posted

That's a lot better than the previous groups, your on the right track.

the most common problem I see with new shooters is they close their eyes just as they shoot its the first thing I watch for when taking a new shooter out and nearly every one has done it and they don't even relies they are doing it so if you take some one with you get them to watch you shoot and see if you are doing it

Thanks @Sideshow for the link, plenty to think about in there. I definitely was not supporting the fore end with those groupings and was just letting it sit on the towel. I'll try find some time later in the week to retest, and see if I can improve the groupings. I'll also try tee up a good shooter to come along with me
And yes I only put the supressor on the rifle when I get to the range, and take it off afterwards

What kind of bedding @CamFlatt, epoxy or pillar, or both? Pleased to see the improvement.