Thread: Remmy 7 vs Savage 16 Actions

Originally Posted by GlenM

Where do you get barrels from in NZ for them? Have a 308 weather warrior and considering get a 243 or 6mm creedmoor barrel for it to make it a bit nicer for my partner to get into shooting with. Wouldn’t need to be top of the range barrel, even a standard savage barrel would do the trick.

And does anyone know where to get after market hunting style stocks for them? Got mine filled with epoxy to stiffen it but now is reasonably weighty.

Barrels.... Hardy, True Flite to name a couple
Stocks.... VTP (Victory Through Precision) does 3d printed chassis. I have a few. Highly recommend.
Otherwise stocks out of the US like Boyds

Originally Posted by GlenM

Yet to dabble into the world of reloading, plus like the idea of have a 6mm caliber for chamois hunting anyway.

Oh ok, I've done a few reduced loads for various cartridges, and have some great data of powder type and charges to suit 223 upto 308. Using the same powder type that Remington used in their factory youth/reduced recoil ammo. It shoots mint too. You could use a 125gr bullet and get it going slower than a "normal minimum" load would be going. It would have very little recoil, and if you used the right bullet, would still perform very well.

Originally Posted by GlenM

Yet to dabble into the world of reloading, plus like the idea of have a 6mm caliber for chamois hunting anyway.

while you "can" switch barrels on a savage you will need a barrel clamp, savage nut cresent and a set of go/no go gauges
not to mention a resite each time you swap

id say a complete second hand rifle would probably be cheeper/easier

Also the marlin xs 7 is not a bad candidate either. It had the same barrel nut as a savage. The Remington 783 is a marlin xs7 with the action holes positions slightly different, but the trigger and the rest is pretty much the same. Just as an alternative...

Boyd stocks and probably the easiest to come by or to order directly from Boyd.

Originally Posted by Bill999

while you "can" switch barrels on a savage you will need a barrel clamp, savage nut cresent and a set of go/no go gauges
not to mention a resite each time you swap

id say a complete second hand rifle would probably be cheeper/easier

Cheers for all the reply’s everyone, much appreciated.

That is a good point Bill, might be less hassle just to go second hand rifle. Cheers

While we are on the nitty gritty of actions, on the Model 7 we have the 3 hole scope mounts with the later model having 4 holes but no one has mentioned the later mod of the extra bolt guide rib on the right bolt lug. This was installed on the 700 years ago but only seems to be a later addition to the Model 7. My question is, can any of you owners with a couple or three M7's see if you have both versions and answer if you find the bolt movement (fully retracted sideway play for eg) any better or the same with & without the extra guide rib? @GWH might be able to answer this?
Cheers fellas

Originally Posted by Mathias

While we are on the nitty gritty of actions, on the Model 7 we have the 3 hole scope mounts with the later model having 4 holes but no one has mentioned the later mod of the extra bolt guide rib on the right bolt lug. This was installed on the 700 years ago but only seems to be a later addition to the Model 7. My question is, can any of you owners with a couple or three M7's see if you have both versions and answer if you find the bolt movement (fully retracted sideway play for eg) any better or the same with & without the extra guide rib? @GWH might be able to answer this?
Cheers fellas

Ill take a look for ya

And while your at it,will bolt with the guide cut run in an action without it (I'm trying to understand if a bolt without the guide cut can be altered to fit an action with the bolt guide) Thanks

Originally Posted by Mathias

While we are on the nitty gritty of actions, on the Model 7 we have the 3 hole scope mounts with the later model having 4 holes but no one has mentioned the later mod of the extra bolt guide rib on the right bolt lug. This was installed on the 700 years ago but only seems to be a later addition to the Model 7. My question is, can any of you owners with a couple or three M7's see if you have both versions and answer if you find the bolt movement (fully retracted sideway play for eg) any better or the same with & without the extra guide rib? @GWH might be able to answer this?
Cheers fellas

Sorry ive been away on a hunting trip, ive just grabbed my M7's out of the safe and have some with the extra rail cut in the bolt and some without. Their appears to be no less slop (fully retracted bolt, moving bolt side to side) on the actions with the bolts with the extra guide rail slot in the bolt lug.....apart from the newest M7, the late model 223, which has a little less than any of the others. On the others that have more side to side slop when fully retracted, once the bolt is pushed forward a little much of that slop goes away.

Originally Posted by Tentman

And while your at it,will bolt with the guide cut run in an action without it (I'm trying to understand if a bolt without the guide cut can be altered to fit an action with the bolt guide) Thanks

Damn, only just seen this now after i checked the above for Mathias, will take another look for you.

Edit: Ive just tried swapping the bolts in two rifles, one with the slot in the lug and one without, they both fitted into the other action. Im wondering if the rifle i have with the bolt that has the slot in the lug has at some time had the bolt lost and a replacement (later) bolt has been sourced and fitted, as surely the bolt without the slot in the lug should fit in the action thats designed to have the slotted lug bolt?

Cheers @GWH

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Originally Posted by Mathias

Cheers @GWH

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see above

Originally Posted by GWH

see above

I would have thought the bolt without the the extra guide groove in lug should not fit the later 223 action with extra rib?
But a later bolt should go into an older action with no extra rib.

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Originally Posted by Tentman

And while your at it,will bolt with the guide cut run in an action without it (I'm trying to understand if a bolt without the guide cut can be altered to fit an action with the bolt guide) Thanks

Yes - I can run the bolt (with guide cut) out of my late model stainless 223 in my older no bolt guide action

Hey thanks so much for doing this . . .appreciated!