Thread: Ruger American Rifle Generation II

For me I'd Skip the fluting, the stock looks to be an improvement with the riser, as does the bigger bolt knob. However my old one just works fine

Wonder if the actions on these will feel like running a bolt through sandpaper.

I have three of the Gen 1 versions.
5.56, 7.62x39 and 300 blackout.
They are budget rifles but all shoot really well, putting many more expensive rifles to shame.
Great for bashing through scrub after critters.
My 7.62x39 is a laser with reloads but also shoots cheap FMJ like a champ.
I will buy the new version in some different calibres, doubt I will sell the old versions.


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ive got a Gen1 in 223 and it eats whatever you throw at it with resonable accuracy.

Hoping to get a Gen2 stock to fit my Gen1 barreled action as the Gen1 stock is pretty lacking for larger hands

Originally Posted by vulcannz

Baikal single shots have fluted barrels. They don't seem to suffer.

nope not fluted..hammer forged and left as it ends up is my understanding of the outer spirals....

I just do not get why people spend money on a shitty firearm that will shoot "well" after you have "worked" (meaning "fixed") the action, and replaced the trigger to something designed by somebody with an actual brain.

Why do you not just buy a decent firearm that works in the first place? There are plenty of options out there, with decent triggers, smooth actions and accurate out of the box...

The added benefit would be that the likes of Ruger and others (looking at you Remingshite) would need to up their game and actually innovate (i.e. get their design and manufacturing processes up to match what is standard in the 21st century)

Originally Posted by STC

I just do not get why people spend money on a shitty firearm that will shoot "well" after you have "worked" (meaning "fixed") the action, and replaced the trigger to something designed by somebody with an actual brain.

Not sure what you mean, my Ruger shot great out of the box, the bolt was a little rough (a little noisy) that soon settled down.

Originally Posted by STC

I just do not get why people spend money on a shitty firearm that will shoot "well" after you have "worked" (meaning "fixed") the action, and replaced the trigger to something designed by somebody with an actual brain.

Why do you not just buy a decent firearm that works in the first place? There are plenty of options out there, with decent triggers, smooth actions and accurate out of the box...

The added benefit would be that the likes of Ruger and others (looking at you Remingshite) would need to up their game and actually innovate (i.e. get their design and manufacturing processes up to match what is standard in the 21st century)

What a load of shite.

Originally Posted by Preacher

What a load of shite.

My thought immediately. There's plenty of otherwise fine rifles out there that are down a little in one area or another...why there is such an aftermarket in upgrades for them - triggers, stocks, sights mags bolt handles, bedding kits... even bloody barrels. They offered something in the first place the buyer thought well enough of to make the purchase. @STC you can be elitist if you want, your prerogative. Not everyone wants to or can fork out for the perfect rifle out of the blocks. And if you are interested in trying out different calibres, a cheaper rifle with some fixable or liveable flaws can make sense.

Funny how a simple question can generate such an emotional response from a few people.

Plenty of good out of the box options out there that cost the same. The argument that you need to spend a lot of money to have a good rifle out of the box is just not true anymore

Can't agree with you @STC. I've got 3 rugers now. .22 , 223 and 6.5 creedmoor. Straight out of the box they shoot bang on. Yes the machining on the bolt is a bit rough and yes it should be better but a bit of work with autosol or similar will quieten it down. The trigger is fine for a hunting rifle but I put in a timny just because I could and thought it would be better for punching holes in paper. Not much problem to punch 10 rounds through a 1in dot at 100m. Plus they have an excellent half closed action and I like a tang safety. Good rifles at a good price.

Give me an old mk2 any day

Oh there was no emotion in my response. It was a factual statement

Originally Posted by STC

I just do not get why people spend money on a shitty firearm that will shoot "well" after you have "worked" (meaning "fixed") the action, and replaced the trigger to something designed by somebody with an actual brain.

Why do you not just buy a decent firearm that works in the first place? There are plenty of options out there, with decent triggers, smooth actions and accurate out of the box...

The added benefit would be that the likes of Ruger and others (looking at you Remingshite) would need to up their game and actually innovate (i.e. get their design and manufacturing processes up to match what is standard in the 21st century)

That's my feeling too. I couldn't hand over $1200-1300 for something like that. It's not a bargain basement rifle, even the much loved Howa 1500 is $100-200 cheaper (cue: MD!). I walked in to a shop to buy a Ruger Ranch, got my hands on it and just thought no. Each to their own though.

Originally Posted by MB

That's my feeling too. I couldn't hand over $1200-1300 for something like that. It's not a bargain basement rifle, even the much loved Howa 1500 is $100-200 cheaper (cue: MD!). I walked in to a shop to buy a Ruger Ranch, got my hands on it and just thought no. Each to their own though.

Same experience for me. I was seriously considering buying one until I got my hands on it in the flesh. I couldn’t believe how poorly finished the bolt and action were. The Howas are a work of art by comparison.