Just what are peoples thoughts on these any calibres, pros and cons, level of accuracy and fit and finish, have a friend looking at maybe getting one in 223 predator model.
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Just what are peoples thoughts on these any calibres, pros and cons, level of accuracy and fit and finish, have a friend looking at maybe getting one in 223 predator model.
They generally shoot very well, seen a 223 and 308 in action and have used the 308 and both work well. Fit is about average for the cost, I like the trigger (because they basically copied the accutrigger). Stock is the usual flexy plastic.
Yep I have an all American compact in .223 stainless steel. I have no complaints love the accu-trigger, yes its a copy of this and that but for the $$$ works well.
I have mine up for sale only because I was swaying to AR when buying the Ruger but not the $$$'s.
Mine has a 16xscope and threaded with a barrel mounted bi-pod for $750 :)
good rifles I have a 223 not as good as something more expensive but they shoot well real well in-fact just a little rough around the edges as barefoot said the stocks are not the best
cheek out post 7 here http://www.nzhuntingandshooting.co.n...-impact-20219/ maybe @smidey will repost here
i love them. I have two, one in 17hmr and one All Weather in 223. I initially bought the hmr and liked it so much I bought the 223.
Here are my basic reviews, they are very accurate.
223 All Weather
http://www.nzhuntingandshooting.co.n...r-223-a-18758/
17HMR
http://www.nzhuntingandshooting.co.n...r-223-a-18758/
Really good out of the box, and can be tweaked to go even better.
Mines the Ranch in 300 - quite similar to the the Predator.
Things to note for the tweaks. The V blocks are awesome - if you bed using the glue and screw method its very easy and similar to bedding in a AI stock. Ruger recommend 60Ft pound of torque on the action screws or "very firmly with a allen key - in their video" If you glue you can go lighter than this as the small epoxy blobs on the face of the block will absorb and transfer the harmonics rather than the alu to barrel recess being screwed tightly against one another to get a good mating of the surfaces.
If you're worried the fore-end is a bit springy and could be on a bi-pod or held into a position that may touch the barrel its easy to fill this with compound (including the next section under the barrel nut with compound - I used Nathan Fosters Stock stabiliser for less than $30 Now its good...
Trigger - there are good instructions on the likes of rimfire central how to decrease trigger pull weight - mine started at about 6lbs and is now about 2.5 with one turn of spring cut off. they advocate 1.75 - but start small you can't put it back. If you really ruin it you can chuck a Timney in for about $290. But if you have the skills or a friendly gunsmith is a about use the existing.
When I got mine it had creep in it. The sear was .8 and really long so we knocked it back to .3 and its taken 70% of the creep out. We also found it was tool steel so no issues honing and polishing ending up wit ha increasingly gritty trigger like you do with some of the AR chemically hardened sears in their triggers.
Hope this helps - But well worth the investment a $799 dollar gun shoots now like a 2 grand one for $30 and time (of course a wee bit more if you get a gunsmith to do this).
If thats the model with the plastic magzine then be prepared to swear, a lot. They dont feed very well at all
Yup @Chopr that's the only issue I've run into in the 300 AAC with some projectiles e.g 125 Noslers they seem to catch the edge of the throat (at the neck) and dig into the feed ramp. Must be a speed and angle of the projectile thing.
Two options (actually 3)
1. Feed fast and forcefully ... seems to work but noisy- but hey it has a great half cock or you can Hammer down the loading of teh first round so all you need to do is lift the bolt up and down to re-cock.
2. Chamfer the throat end of the case really well in the reloading prep stage so there's little or no bur to catch on on the ramp - has worked well with me for subsequent loads but I really did have a few WTF moments there for a while at the range loading.
3. If possible if your gunshop or person buying from will let you (hopefully you've pre-built some 4or5 drill rounds - no powder or primers) to test the actual magazine. I understand from overseas forums there have been particularly earlier shipments some faulty magazines that won't even pick up a round - Check out you-tube they're out there about 8-9 months ago. Test and swap till you get a magazine you're happy with. Ruger in the US were replacing no questions asked but as the american is magazine only feeding it can be a major piss off that it doesn't work when you need it to.
Hope that helps some of you out there...
My 8 year old uses one in .223, it has the plastic magazine and so far its ok.
Him and me have only put maybe 50 odd rounds through it but very nice... and a good price.
The compact is a bit to compact for me based on the scope I had for it, but it was for my kids...
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interesting people saying they have had issues with feeding rounds. I haven't experienced that in my 223, it feeds a lot better than a norinco 223 (5.56) i had.
I find mine to feed well unless you grip under the mag as a lit of people do as I found with mine if you put your hand there it pushes the mag up a little higher and creates jams if you keep your hand away from the mag its fine my one is anyway
Yep +1 for that, loading mag and feeding not a problem at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by rambo-6mmrem
I had read that info before and tested mine. The mag on mine fits mint, when clipped in didn't move at all so maybe I got luckyQuote:
Originally Posted by rambo-6mmrem
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I had a few passing threw my hands. The barrels are reasonably straight . The finish a bit rough.
One thing to check: some times the two bedding metal blocks are not well aligned and when re tightening the action screws there are on some rifles a bit of action binding which is not the best for accuracy.
@Carpe DiemQuote:
Originally Posted by Carpe Diem
Don't these have the factory adjustable trigger, simply wind the grub screw in or out to adjust?
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Yep they do just remove the stock and adjust really simple, the leaflet on how to do it was in the box :)Quote:
Originally Posted by smidey
Yes they do but i think he means if you want to go even lighter as standard only reduces to 2.5lb which is a little heavyer than i like but found good enough myself
Hmm I've left mine as "straight out of the box", and love it. I couldn't imagine it any lighter :)
Yup - they do have the grub screw for this too but Ruger say this will get you to about 3.5 lb in mine it just got me to a little over 4 completely out. I like a light trigger on mine (so its similar to my target .22Lr and 7mm big girl) and more importantly for me I wanted to eliminate the creep I was getting in the pull - so did both at the same time. We err'd on the side of conservatism and went with the 1 turn of the spring off rather than 1.75 which some advocate on the forums. I'm now trying this for the next few months then I'll decide if it needs more. The screw adjust is great because I know I can easily wind some more weight back on.Quote:
Originally Posted by rambo-6mmrem
All comes down to personal preference guys just wanted to let you know what was possible out there - relatively easily..
I got an American Rimfire 22 and I can't fault it. Awesome trigger, deadly accurate, surprisingly neat and clean finish. Even the gimmicky interchangeable butt has proven useful
Yeah I did both of mine but thought I had missed something our the 30 cals had some thing different hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by Natatale
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The problems with the Ruger magzines seems to be hit and miss. Some have no problems and others ? A friend of mine bought one of the Rugers and on his 3rd magazine. The first shell would feed no problems but that was all
what a pain in the ass that would be, thankfully, touch wood, i've not had any issues. i've probably only fired about 60 rounds but i would expect to have had an issue by then if i was going to
are you sure its 60ft lb that would probably snap the screws offQuote:
Originally Posted by Carpe Diem
Friend got one (a .22 magnum) as a birthday present. Action is horrible and "scratchy" but the trigger is nice
Just watched the video again at Ruger Ruger Videos
Info is almost at the end of the video and they say 75 Inch pounds or as tight as you can hand tighten with a standard Allen wrench sorry I read "Lbs as 'lb's.... bit of a difference but still really tight...
