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What options are there?; in something capable of being dialed
$800 - $1400
4x zoom at bottom end would be the max I'd want - preferable 40-44mm objective
Turrets can be under caps - just be be easy to reset
VX3
Vortex - who has used them?
Sightron
Or as I only really shoot to 500m - a scope with a suitable reitcale
Sightron seem good from what I have read, also Vortex. who sells Vortex in NZ only site I found showed no prices
How about a Leupold VX 3 4.5 -14 x 40mm long range with side focus and CDS. Not 4 x but pretty close at the bottom end. My brother has the 4.5 - 14 x 50 mm on a 300 wsm and dials accurately.
I bought a Kaspa by Weaver with side parrallex and exposed dialing turrets which are lockable after adjustment buy pushing down.I was a bit dubios about its capabilities so put it on my 1/3 moa 22-250 and did a box test which it did exactly as it should and then dialed 600yds and bashed the gong first shot and kept on doing it.
I would go as far to say as a first dialling scope for the money good value.
I am going to run it on a spare centre fire for the boys as im not letting them wreck my good gear
It is a 30mm tube with i think 75moa adjustment and fast focus eye peice also not to heavy to boot
I will try and find a link and not sure on retail price yet so i rate this scope not to bad!
http://www.weaveroptics.com/optics/riflescopes/kaspa/
mine is the 3-12x44 illum with the tbx reticle
Weaver 4-16x44 Riflescope (Side Focus) |
check this.
ive got a pst vortex 6-24 x50 im loving it just put vortex in the search bar it should find a few threads
Just bought a vortex scope today,4.5 to16 adjustable turrets aluminated reticle ,compared it to leupold scopes preferred vortex .they are worth a look at cost $1500 ,I personally felt its as good as a leupold in the same price range if not better,will find out when I use it:)
You should be able to pick up a second hand MK4 for that sort of money. That would be my pick if accurate dialing is your main criteria.
Meh loopies are over rated. Bushnells have better glass and are just as reliable weavers in the same boat both with decent zoom ratio and for less money. The main reason you buy leupold is because of the unconditional warrantee. My point is if your going to fork out for a mk 4 you may as well save a bit longer and get a nightforce thats what the mk 4 wants to be when it grows up.
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I would try a bushnell if i ever go dialup.. 6500 2.5-16x42
Nikon Monarch (whispered!)
Nikon Monarch X Tactical 4-16 X 50 Black Matte, Mil Dot Reticle, 8415, Rifle Scope: Arcadian Sales
Contact us , we could get you into a sightron or talk about finance on a NF
I have talked to the Guy i got mine of and he can get you into one for about $600Quote:
Originally Posted by andyanimal31
I run Three other high mag dial ups diavari 6x24 nf 5x22 and a 8x25 vx3 and i reckon the kaspa is bloody good money if you aint got lots of coin to throw
at the big boys.
Pm me for details if keen
Any thoughts on the new Zeiss HD5?
Ill probly get strung up for this but i wouldnt touch a zeiss for dialing. Any zeiss. If your gunna throw that sorta coin at it then s and b
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they are about $1000USD - not the victory's though
Funny thing is talking about failing scopes i have it on good authority that s and b's have their share of failures and have personally seen two mk4 tac that have fucked out.Quote:
Originally Posted by CreepingDeath
On the other hand i have been abusing my zeiss and nf for several years and have had no reports of diavari failures or nf failures and i rate both of them right up there.
the conquest might have their issues but dont lump them all together as shit as that is not the case.
The glass and adjustments are second to none on my diavari and i know that as i have used optics most people only dream about.my nf is not to far behind and my vx3 8x25 with target turrets is right up there as well for clarity and adjustments.
If ever you come through taihape CD call in and judge for yourself the quality of the zeiss
Cheers Andy
Hey i like the glass theyre fukin awsome. I personally seen a diavari fail at the range on a 308. And reports from other people theres no way id put a conquest on my kids gun. If it works for you then thats cool im not bagging it this is just my opinion. Never once heard of a pmII letting go. As for the mk 4s have a look back through this thread ive already stated loopies are over rated.
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Bit of topic as the diavari is 4 times his budget but my one shat out when it was 3 months old, I since sold all my zeiss scopes think I had 5 and would never touch one again.Quote:
Originally Posted by andyanimal31
It did have awesome glass but no better than the other top scopes.
You cant really compare the NF and Diavari, the diavari has the best glass but the NF wont break or let you down.
"You cant really compare the NF and Diavari, the diavari has the best glass but the NF wont break or let you down."
Thats it in a nutshell.
There are only so many Hot -Cold cycles some scopes can put up with, your choosing between durability and utmost glass clarity.
Having shot many deer out past 900yrds within ten minutes either side of 9 PM on a summers evening I am completely happy with the 10moa per turn 5.5-22x56 NPR1 Nightforce. I also use the newer 20 moa per turn NF with its noticeably better glass.
As always seems to happen this thread has veered away from the OP's selection criteria.
$1500 or less and accurate dialling is his main concern. So, with that in mind, all this talk about Diavari's, S&B's etc isnt really helping him :)
I still think a second hand MK4 will be about his best option. Although, if Looseunit has sharp finance options on the NF that could be a contender.
Edit - I just read the OP as well and $800-$1400 is the range and 500 mtrs max.
6500 2.5-16. Done!
For about $1300au you'll get a swaro Z3 4-12x50mm ballistic turret - I bit bigger objective than you were chasing but a beautiful scope.I was going to get one until I fell in love with the Leupold VX-RQuote:
Originally Posted by faregame
Or the Swaro Z3 4-12x50mm with the Ballistic Reticle System (BR Reticle) - My brother has one and its a beautiful scope - it'll sort you out with long shots once you figure out the drop.
I should also add in the Leupold VX-R which I have is a beautiful scope. I do a lot of low light shooting - on dawn and dusk and if you do that the red dot is a great asset when you cant make out the X-Hair. Food for thought but probably not exactly what your chasing
yep getting closer- actually a few options
Sightron SIII 3.5-10 X 44 - bit low in the magnification
Bushnell 6500 - not sure what the turrets look like
Vortex HS
VX3 (maybe VXr) with CDS in moa
Zeiss HD5
Swaro - Z3 - 50mm though - hadn't noticed the Swaro in that bracket
Glass is important to me - the last three would be in the running?
I'm selling 2 rifles to have just 1 nicer one that I use every time -
I had a nightforce a few years ago - sold it to another forum member - just too bulky and heavy - nice though
swaro z6 3-18x50 but its not in that price range
:P
I think the poor fella wants some money left in his bank! beautiful scopes though!Quote:
Originally Posted by geezejonesy
just take out a bigger loan, banks always wantin to lend me more $$$$$$$$$
yes its a beaut scope got one on my 300wm
its where that kinda of $$ scope would wind up - pretty sure the quality or zoom wouldn't be useful - and the objective would hurt too much!!!
Z3 has got my eye - not heavy either so the 50mm ok - (My NF was 32oz or something)
Anyone use one with the Turret?
What is the glass like to the other Swaro Z5 etc
My brother worked in a gunshop and found out one thing that has stuck with me about swaro - for at least Z4 and I'm pretty certain Z5 the only difference in the glass between those and Z3 is that there is no difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by faregame
It is the same glass and the only difference is that Z5 and Z4 are manufactured and assembled in europe whereas Z3 is sent to be assembled in USA. They did it because they wanted to break into the more mainstream scope scene and be assimilated with the word "affordability" as opposed to being all so expensive while still maintaining a high class.
I havent personally used it but when I was on the verge of buying one I handled them a lot. The have 3 colours red, green and yellow that you set to different distances as well as a white one which from memory is the zero. They have a phone app or through their website there is a program that allows you to put in all the detail for either factory or handload info and it works out your calculated drop for different distances so that you can set it all up accurately.
Something worth looking into I think.
As I said before I would've got one but the VX-R was more practical as I do far more low light shooting then long stuff that would require that. My 300wm is flat shooting so out to 350m as long as I know where she's shooting I'm comfortable without need for a BR reticle or ballistic turret.
All personal preference though and unlike many will tell you there is no right and wrong
You mean like these
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yeah - what are they like (what models)Quote:
Originally Posted by geezejonesy
Which do you prefer
swaro is a z6 3-18x50 BT
the vortex viper is a pst 6-24 x50 i like em both, long distance the vortex is no where near as clear as the swaro but at 1/2 the price i wouldnt expect it to be but i use the pst as my range rifle on my 25-06 at the moment :cool:
Anyone actually dialling a VX-R? Had a play with one in the shop and interested to see how they stack up?
4-12x40 could be an interesting budget LR hunting scope and glass is supposed to be almost up there with the VX3 from some reports I've read.
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