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Ive gota upgrade my scope sooner rather than later and Ive been loolking at the New Tac turreted MOA Sightrons in either 6-24x50 or the 8-32x56. they can be gotten for a decent price and are meant to be just shy of the Nightforce performance wise (just not as tough).
Whats your guys opinion, I know ya'all have one
Lethal has one (at least)
I've held off buying one as I didnt like their reticles -however things are chnaging or have changed.
There is a big price gap between them, however the quality gap is small.
Also another one to consider maybe would be Vortex Viper PST - i have got a 4-16 and very happy with it so far - im comparing it against my Nightforces as far as optics and winding ability if that helps?
I'm thinking the new March 2.5x25 or 5x32 might be my next scope :thumbsup:
Have you narrowed it down to those 2 scopes or your not aware of other options? How and on what are you going to use it?
cowboy has a sightron. Said the same as everyone else when he first got it. But after a year of heavy use the coating on the glass has gone weird and you can no longer see through it very well.
Ive sorta narrowed it down to these two. If I could get a NF HS turret(no ZS) for a decent price here in nz that would sway my decsion some what, Its going to be used on a 7mm rem mag. Id really like a March or S&B but at the end of the day my eyes cant disearn the differance between a March and NF. Prefer not to go to the vortex.
What model was cowboys scope MEB?
It wouldn't have been anything flash. I'll find out.
The only trouble with the NF is they are a big heavy scope for a 7mm mag the March is alot lighter and smaller in size. Personally I think the March has better glass than than NF but the NF will be better in low light.
Striker If its a dedcated LR rifle then Night Force, if its a carry rifle then I personally prefer something lighter than the 30+ oz a night force weighs.The sightron will be lighter and a lot cheaper.If you cant tell the difference between a NF and a March then it could be well worth a real look at the vortex HS or PST range along with plenty of others.
Which NF will be better than which march in low light? they both make a range of scopes with diferent sized objectives, from what Iv seen given equall exit pupil then the march is better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terminator
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Originally Posted by sneeze
I was talking about the 2.5x25x42 March
The March I looked through had much better glass than my NF, but I didn't like the thick cross hairs.
A MK4 would be hard to beat for weigh etc, except for a VX3 LR, both had better glass than the NF I tested.
Premier Light Tactical...Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiwi Greg
Better than a mk4/vx3... but then I'm biased... Better than any NF I have owned (optics wise). Glass as good as my Swarovski Z6. Simple turret design, 2 turn, zero stop with indicator for 1st/2nd turn and L or R windage. illuminated reticle. Feels the same weight as my mk4 with alumina covers.
Actually, I'm wrong, the mk 4 is awesome... Want to buy mine?:grin::grin:
http://www.eurooptic.com/premier-ret...in-dt-ccw.aspx
Also in milrad if that is your flavour
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...3/IMG_0311.jpg
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If that was mine Greg it was the DE Plex in hunting scope,plenty of finer choices that are more target focused. Have at times wished the posts where a little heavier but I find the cross hairs bloody good for a non iluminated reticel .This was about 600 yds on 18x IIRC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiwi Greg
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That Premier looks very nice Sam, how are you finding it and the FFP?
Haven't used it enough to really say for sure. The reticle is very fine in the centre at 3x, but with the illumination on it's easy to see in low light. Here it is at 3x...
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...3/IMG_0318.jpg
The turrets are nice and positive, and I like the lower profile of them compared to Mk4's. I thought pretty hard about a March, but got the Premier in at a good price so went that way. And I didn't want to wait about 6-7 months to get the March I wanted...
Cool. Id be keen to hear your thoughts when youve given a good workout.tehy do a hunting model with covered turrets and a simple reticle which would suit me.They have there own flip covers which is nice, they work ok?
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Originally Posted by sneeze
It was Adams, IMHO on max power the cross hairs looked like they had been drawn by a kid with a vivid marker compared to the IOR, VX3, MK4, NSX
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I guess that was caused by FFP, any how it wasn't my cup of tea & the 5 year warranty didn't bring me on much either.....
I'm interested in your thoughts on why the March will be better in low light (I have both and personally think the March is superiorQuote:
Originally Posted by Terminator
comparing 5.5x22x56 NF and 5 x 50 x56 March)
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Originally Posted by DAF
Like I said in another post above I was talking about the 2.5x25x42 March and the 5.5x22x56 NF. in low light
I have not looked through a 5x50x56 March but going by your positive thoughts about it maybe I should be looking more seriously at it ;)
yeah youl always get a bit that comapring FFP to SFP, could never get my head around the FFP thing unless your shooting tac type comps.The zoom range on the march will make the reticle size more of an issue.I seem remember Koskins review saying there was a little reticle bleed on full x. with the 3x24. The 5 year warranty thing is Japaneese law for a company of Deon s size, they will be looking after there product and keeping their reputation for quality and sevice for a long time to come.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiwi Greg
I realise that is the case, but I'm not spending that much more $$$$ than a MK4 or NF, or slightly less than my IORs for bugger all warranty no matter what they say, in six years time IF you have an issue you COULD be on your own.............Bugger......Quote:
Originally Posted by sneeze
:secret laugh: IF? COULD? IOR may fall to the euopean debt crises as could any company who knows lol but you need to have a litle faith ,:are you for real : ActuallyHave you ever kept anything for 6 years. :bouaaaaah:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiwi Greg
Funney though what weve come to expect from rifle scopes, We buy a new Ute for $45-50 thousand with a three year warrenty where a failure could cost a shit load more than a new scope but scopes must have a lifetime warranty.
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Cheap ute...not a Shagger :thumbsup:
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Originally Posted by sneeze
All very good points. I have had thousands of dollars worth of cell phones, computers, plasma tv's etc shit themselves, and basically its a case of accepting the fact and moving on. Never had an issue with a scope yet (touch wood) and they endure much rougher treatment than any of the other stuff that has crapped out...Quote:
Originally Posted by sneeze
Actually I think mitsi rule the warranty roost with there 10 year full drivetrain cover.Iv seen enough broken hiluxes to never pay the premium they ask for them. The one fault Iv had after owning 6 mitsi utes(syncro went on first gear) was coverd by Houstons 18 mths out of the warenty period.Toyato walked away from my cousens hilux 3 weeks past the date after his gearbox blew. Hypelux? no thanksQuote:
Originally Posted by Kiwi Greg
We managed to hijack strikers thread al the way to utes in 3 pages NOT BAD:thumbsup:
It doesnt matter to me :thumbsup: I hijack my own threads at times:yaeh am not durnk:
On the subject of mitzys, I know of a couple that were brought for the 10year warrenty and after putting a flat deck on they wont touch them and the warrenty has been voided. Sensors and shit started playing up etc and now they are regreting their choice by the sounds of it
Ive pretty much decided to go with a sightron s3 6-24x50. now I just have to is it worth getting it from the US
i got a little lost reading through this thread, if i read it correct you are saying that sightron only has a 5 year warranty? on the website it says they have a lifetime warranty or am i reading it wrong
"Even really great products require warranty and service to match. We wouldn't expect you to trust our products if we didn't believe in them ourselves. We're certain our scopes, binoculars and electronic sighting devices will line up to your high expectations and never let you down. We are so confident in the quality of our products that Sightron offers a “ Lifetime Warranty” .
Should your Sightron product ever fail, simply return it to Sightron at the address listed below with a brief note of the problem and your daytime contact information and we will repair or replace it at our option.
Sightron Inc,
100 Jeffrey Way Suite A
Youngsville, NC. 27596 "
i only ask as i've been looking at getting one of these scopes as well, i'm one of those people that hold on to rifles and scopes and the like for ever.
sightron have a lifetime warrenty.
Deon the makers of March scopes only give out a 5 year warrenty due to restrictions under japanese law regarding company sizing
sweet that makes more sense to me, Sightron are japanese manufactured scopes as well aren't they? would the same restrictions not apply to them as well.
but they are an USA company IIRC, just the scopes manafactured in Japan
that clears things up, thanks
Greg was just takin the pis out of our much loved march's:grin:
The japanese warenty is linked to the size/turnover of the company, deon is quite small in relative terms.
