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Bullshit - if you buy quality 2nd hand you will get a decent scope that dials accurately and repeatable .... and with good optical quality.
Will it be top end euro glass .... obviously not. Both of the options I suggested provide this. The Zeiss glass is very good.
Chainsaw, I think Bob Tackskin was referring to brand new scopes. You can get some great deals 2nd hand for $1K or less as you say. Then again, buying 2nd hand, especially optics, can be risky (caveat emptor).
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