"Short-Pig" ideas - Short barrel 22rf semi-auto??

Gidday Guys

Following a couple of missions where the barrel of my Miroku "Browning" SA-22 (with suppressor) keeps getting hung up on things I want to do a special "truck gun". Its too nice to cut down or I'd do it in a hearbeat - also the tube mag is a pain in a truck.

Semi auto I think. Minimum legal length barrel (I'll have it cut) with suppressor. Got to shoot really well (much as I like 10-22's they are too "variable" in the accuracy stakes). Don't care what sort of stock. Can't have a tube mag (which I like) cause I want to cut the barrel short.

So - without spending a lot of money can anyone suggest something better than a Marlin 795 (or similar model) for my 22 "Short Pig". Ideas??

papoose

Apparently they kill porcupines well!

I must say like the "last-shot" bolt hold-open also.

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Originally Posted by northdude

papoose

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Agreed

Extremely reliable, accurate, and not ammo fussy. Great gun.

Papoose for sure. Half the weight of those ruger takedowns. They pack up so small in the canvas/neoprene bag too, much less of a pain to have then a full length rifle bag/case. I've also seen one that had a second barrel, which had been turned into an overbarrel suppressor setup, was really quite swish.

Hmmm - with some more thought maybe a really short semi is a bit of a liability, much more chance of putting a round in your own foot. So maybe a bolt action instead methinks.

probably the shortest option could be a g22 walther ive got one need to modify the trigger linkage to improve the trigger tho

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Originally Posted by Tentman

Hmmm - with some more thought maybe a really short semi is a bit of a liability, much more chance of putting a round in your own foot. So maybe a bolt action instead methinks.

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What brought you to that conclusion @Tentman?

Over many years of shooting I've seen several guys with semi's (especially 22's, probably cause they're so common) who were un-aware they didn't have the safety on and a round up the spout - easy for that to turn into an accident.

It seems to happen a bit when there is some "action on" or things don't go exactly to plan. I'm just as human as the next bloke and a likely outcome of the above is shooting yourself in the leg or foot - ask more than one policemen who've done it with a pistol - the short barrel just makes it easier to do.

Hmmm - seems I've not been thinking enough - and not familiar enough with semi-auto rifles and their "procedures". With the semi (providing it has a bolt "hold open") all the shooter has to do to make the rifle very safe is pull the bolt and lock it open (and catch the spare round). Thanks to Greghud for pointing out the error of my ways (thinking anyway).

As with lots of things firearm related it pays to think about "procedure" a lot. Sorry if I've lead anyone astray.

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Originally Posted by Tentman

Hmmm - seems I've not been thinking enough - and not familiar enough with semi-auto rifles and their "procedures". With the semi (providing it has a bolt "hold open") all the shooter has to do to make the rifle very safe is pull the bolt and lock it open (and catch the spare round). Thanks to Greghud for pointing out the error of my ways (thinking anyway).

As with everything firearm related it pays to think about "procedure" a lot. Sorry if I've lead anyone astray.

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Cz511? Just hard to get mags

One of the big thing with ALL firearms learn how to use it safely or don't use it. Some sort of bolt hold open is a must on all my semi's for hunting, especially for hunting at night i.e. possums. Why? when I have to cross fences etc it is a simple case of mag-out, bolt back and empty chamber. I can then cross fence, pluck a possum or whatever and I can see the bolt open so know it's empty. With an AK I kept finding myself opening the bolt to check an empty chamber every other moment.

This one has a last shot bolt hold open which is awesome as it will show you when it's out of ammo and time to change mags. You wont get "empty chamber=escaped possum" like I had last night.

Browning SA-22 or one of the Norinco copies.

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this is my take on a short .22 for truck use, ruger 10/22 takedown with a red dot. I bought two of the rifles second hand, one shot a lot better than the other so I sold the other. Its had a couple of minor mods that it dident really need but even before them it was more than acurate enouth for a red dot sighted(or open sighted) .22 running subs. chamber flags for the win when it comes to having semis inside a veicalas far as im personly concerned-you can pull the and load the firearm in one action once your used to it

I would get a Gevarm if you can find one.

Fires from an open bolt (like a Stengun),to make safe you need only to pull the Mag out,it never chambers a round except when the bolt is in battery.
I bought one and shortened it,put a red dot sight on it and would regularly hit running Hares with it.

Mine will be on the market later this year.

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Originally Posted by norsk

I would get a Gevarm if you can find one.

Fires from an open bolt (like a Stengun),to make safe you need only to pull the Mag out,it never chambers a round except when the bolt is in battery.
I bought one and shortened it,put a red dot sight on it and would regularly hit running Hares with it.

Mine will be on the market later this year.

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While Im a raving Gevarm fanboy, if the op doesnt think a 10/22 is up to the job acuracy wise then then a gevarm is probably out. If yours is a non takedown version I could be interested in it btw

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While Im a raving Gevarm fanboy, if the op doesnt think a 10/22 is up to the job acuracy wise then then a gevarm is probably out. If yours is a non takedown version I could be interested in it btw

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I think they all take down Res.
Some the barrel comes out of the receiver,others the barrel and action comes out of the stock by undoing a thumbscrew under the action.

Accuracy wise I have found it and another one to be very,very good.I might have been lucky?

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Originally Posted by norsk

I think they all take down Res.
Some the barrel comes out of the receiver,others the barrel and action comes out of the stock by undoing a thumbscrew under the action.

Accuracy wise I have found it and another one to be very,very good.I might have been lucky?

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I have always refered to the ones that you can drop out of the stock as non takedown, thats the sort im looking for. I have found there acuracy to be usable but not anything to write home about-I have but it down to the long lock time inherent to the open bolt design along with the mass of the bolt moving

Thanks for the info guys, much appreciated. Some time ago I scored a 10/22 with two mags on Tardme for $280, BUT I gave it to a guy just getting started hunting and he loves it to bits. I went and saw him today and "borrowed" it back (no indian giving) and immediately recalled why I'm not real fond of 10/22's. To me they feel "fat" in my hand, having carried "slim" rifles for 50 years or so . . .

I also scored a Marlin 925 from Tardme tonight so when that gets here I'll be able to do a bit of a comparison before deciding which to convert (I have an alternative 10/22 lined up, but its not $280 !!). There was an old Marlin model 60 parts gun (its the tube fed one, alas without a stock) in the cabinet so I hauled it out and it is a lot slimmer through the receiver than the 10/22 (26mm versus 32mm).

When I was 17 or 18 my uncle had the Gevarm that fired from the open bolt, it was a hard one to get to shoot accurately (how inherently accurate the rifle was I never found out).

Cheers

Awesome let us know how you get on!!

To be honest I think a bolt action Marlin (like your 925) or Norinco JW-15A shortie, or a Marlin 795 for a semi, would be about the best options. Nice and slim and light and short are great from the truck for bunny busting. I like the Marlins, they are all no nonsense tools that get the job done and generally do what they should out of the box.

come grab my kids ruger, you can take it for a run and tell me what you think, your not aloud to shoot your foot tho.
Greg

go for the JW15shortybolt action with 9shot mag.Ive got one -cracker in the truck and dangles nicely when i do my john wayne walk.Its als bloody nasty on extended bipodas a bunny or two found out -
hop fucker and ya drop pop....crash.