Thread: Small bore double rifle.

I've got a Fair Safari double rifle in 9.3x74 and extra 20 ga shotgun barrels,
The heavy recoil, from the 9.3 in a 6lb double rifle isn't enjoyable, I can manage about 10-12 rounds before I start to fatigue and my shooting goes all to hell.
Going to order a second set of barrels, can't decide on what cal, 7x57R or 7x65R, I've got both the 7x57 and 7x64 in bolt actions, solid reliable cartridges.
I am leaning towards the 7x57, but the added performance of the 7x65 is tempting.
Other choices are 8x57, 308, 270, 3006, 30R blaser,.243 and perhaps 6.5x57 if I ask. Not interested in any non rimmed case,
So what would you choose, 7x57R, 7x 65R or other. I've got a week to decide,

Hi @southernman

So you like the 7x57R which does not need anyone to introduce it or to blow its trumpet.

You are tempted by the 7x65R...all the while you try to ignore your poor shoulder's request for a break. (-:

It sounds like you will shoot more accurately with the 7x57R as acromio-clavicular joints do not toughen up in response to repeat abuse. )-:

Thinking of rimmed cartridges, there is one large-case, rimmed .30 calibre you did not mention, the 7.62x54R Russian. With its fat rim and wide shoulders it would just LOOK and feel right, in a steampunk kind of way, as you slip two of them into the breech(es).



Wonder if we'll see more double barrel rifles used in the NZ bush, now semis are out. Fuchs make double bolt action rifles in the whole spectrum of calibres right down to their .17HMR Hummingbird.

Originally Posted by Cordite

Hi @southernman

So you like the 7x57R which does not need anyone to introduce it or to blow its trumpet.

You are tempted by the 7x65R...all the while you try to ignore your poor shoulder's request for a break. (-:

It sounds like you will shoot more accurately with the 7x57R as acromio-clavicular joints do not toughen up in response to repeat abuse. )-:

Thinking of rimmed cartridges, there is one large-case, rimmed .30 calibre you did not mention, the 7.62x54R Russian. With its fat rim and wide shoulders it would just LOOK and feel right, in a steampunk kind of way, as you slip two of them into the breech(es).

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Wonder if we'll see more double barrel rifles used in the NZ bush, now semis are out. Fuchs make double bolt action rifles in the whole spectrum of calibres right down to their .17HMR Hummingbird.

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What is that rifle and How much....? It is gorgeous so I suspect another mortgage is n the way....

Originally Posted by timattalon

What is that rifle and How much....? It is gorgeous so I suspect another mortgage is n the way....

A review: https://www.range365.com/double-barr...-action-rifle/

The maker's site: Fine Guns - Fuchs Fine Guns

I note that they resurrected Lee's fast short-pull rear locker action to make it all possible.

My though is, why not make something like this without frills....like the difference between a Gold Plated Thompson SMG versus a Sten Gun 'plumbing pipe' look SMG, instead of the current obviously over expensive and steampunk looking. The "Russian Five", which looks like a cross between a Faberge egg and the Nautilus from the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen movie, yet it is also their pride and joy with extensive use of titanium steel, allowing a 4kg light double barrel bolt action with a total capacity of six shots.

Not the sort of gun you accidentally leave behind on a fence post when you open and close a gate.

Originally Posted by Cordite

A review: https://www.range365.com/double-barr...-action-rifle/

The maker's site: Fine Guns - Fuchs Fine Guns

I note that they resurrected Lee's fast short-pull rear locker action to make it all possible.

My though is, why not make something like this without frills....like the difference between a Gold Plated Thompson SMG versus a Sten Gun 'plumbing pipe' look SMG, instead of the current obviously over expensive and steampunk looking. The "Russian Five", which looks like a cross between a Faberge egg and the Nautilus from the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen movie, yet it is also their pride and joy with extensive use of titanium steel, allowing a 4kg light double barrel bolt action with a total capacity of six shots.

Not the sort of gun you accidentally leave behind on a fence post when you open and close a gate.

I see it in 375 H&H....6 in the mag and two in the chamber at $10 a pop, is $80 just to load it....

Originally Posted by Cordite

A review: https://www.range365.com/double-barr...-action-rifle/

The maker's site: Fine Guns - Fuchs Fine Guns

I note that they resurrected Lee's fast short-pull rear locker action to make it all possible.

My though is, why not make something like this without frills....like the difference between a Gold Plated Thompson SMG versus a Sten Gun 'plumbing pipe' look SMG, instead of the current obviously over expensive and steampunk looking. The "Russian Five", which looks like a cross between a Faberge egg and the Nautilus from the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen movie, yet it is also their pride and joy with extensive use of titanium steel, allowing a 4kg light double barrel bolt action with a total capacity of six shots.

Not the sort of gun you accidentally leave behind on a fence post when you open and close a gate.

Amazing Szecsei & Fuchs Double Barrel Bolt Action Rifle « Daily Bulletin

It mentions that a standard double action rifle, not the gold engraved one was sold for half price at 78K- $US dollars I'd say.
So $156000 back in 2014. Did some quick calcs for the avg. exchange rate back then at around 80c to our dollar.
$187000 plus change kiwi dollars.

Originally Posted by Cordite

Hi @southernman

So you like the 7x57R which does not need anyone to introduce it or to blow its trumpet.

You are tempted by the 7x65R...all the while you try to ignore your poor shoulder's request for a break. (-:

It sounds like you will shoot more accurately with the 7x57R as acromio-clavicular joints do not toughen up in response to repeat abuse. )-:

Thinking of rimmed cartridges, there is one large-case, rimmed .30 calibre you did not mention, the 7.62x54R Russian. With its fat rim and wide shoulders it would just LOOK and feel right, in a steampunk kind of way, as you slip two of them into the breech(es).

Attachment 111824

Wonder if we'll see more double barrel rifles used in the NZ bush, now semis are out. Fuchs make double bolt action rifles in the whole spectrum of calibres right down to their .17HMR Hummingbird.

Attachment 111823

How much....? It is gorgeous so I suspect another mortgage is n the way....

Originally Posted by southernman

I've got a Fair Safari double rifle in 9.3x74 and extra 20 ga shotgun barrels,
The heavy recoil, from the 9.3 in a 6lb double rifle isn't enjoyable, I can manage about 10-12 rounds before I start to fatigue and my shooting goes all to hell.
Going to order a second set of barrels, can't decide on what cal, 7x57R or 7x65R, I've got both the 7x57 and 7x64 in bolt actions, solid reliable cartridges.
I am leaning towards the 7x57, but the added performance of the 7x65 is tempting.
Other choices are 8x57, 308, 270, 3006, 30R blaser,.243 and perhaps 6.5x57 if I ask. Not interested in any non rimmed case,
So what would you choose, 7x57R, 7x 65R or other. I've got a week to decide,

I've been chasing one in 38/55 an old deer cartridge.

Unless it is really accurate I would go 7x57R. I have a 7x65R single shot, I was going to go 7x57R but felt the extra power of the 65 best fitted with where I hunted, the open tops.
I would imagine most of your shots will be less than 100yds.

Originally Posted by southernman

I've got a Fair Safari double rifle in 9.3x74 and extra 20 ga shotgun barrels,
The heavy recoil, from the 9.3 in a 6lb double rifle isn't enjoyable, I can manage about 10-12 rounds before I start to fatigue and my shooting goes all to hell.
Going to order a second set of barrels, can't decide on what cal, 7x57R or 7x65R, I've got both the 7x57 and 7x64 in bolt actions, solid reliable cartridges.
I am leaning towards the 7x57, but the added performance of the 7x65 is tempting.
Other choices are 8x57, 308, 270, 3006, 30R blaser,.243 and perhaps 6.5x57 if I ask. Not interested in any non rimmed case,
So what would you choose, 7x57R, 7x 65R or other. I've got a week to decide,

What a terrible dilemma to be in.

Originally Posted by Marty Henry

What a terrible dilemma to be in.

And they're talking metrics, They ain't real double rifles in that language?

7x57R

6.5x57R would be a great "practise round" that would also be handy for anything up to "medium" game.

However I'd be thinking of something a bit more classic and that "compliments" your other barrelsets - 303 British is what I'd be thinking if they'll do it for you

Originally Posted by Tentman

6.5x57R would be a great "practise round" that would also be handy for anything up to "medium" game.

However I'd be thinking of something a bit more classic and that "compliments" your other barrelsets - 303 British is what I'd be thinking if they'll do it for you

Absolutely..... That or the Russian 7.62x54R mentioned above which is a derivative of the 303 manufacture.

Originally Posted by Tentman

6.5x57R would be a great "practise round" that would also be handy for anything up to "medium" game.

However I'd be thinking of something a bit more classic and that "compliments" your other barrelsets - 303 British is what I'd be thinking if they'll do it for you

Heh heh. Don't ask them if they will. Ask them if they CAN, and they'll jump to the tune of your cheque book.

Anyway...

Here are some alternatives to the more impoverished among us, Baikal twin barrel rifles in the first video, and in the second one someone who found 16g shotguns seem to do better than 12g with slugs.