So who is a forum smarty pants then?!

I have acquired a New England Arms rear peep for the rail on my T3 , barrel is threaded for suppressor, am working on ideas for how I will make a removable front sight so I can switch from the scope (on quick release weavers) to the peep depending on the bush, not taken the last two "spook and shoot" opportunities as too close to determine aim point, having a colour in your scope doesn't count (4.5-14 loopy). I tend to be slower and more deliberate about taking shots than some.

Quite like the idea of my 18" 6.5 T3 on open sights, so looking for clever ideas as to how to make what I want for the front end.

How about a red dot sight. These are very fast pointing, and have no parrelax our magnification.

You already have the rail set up, so easy solution.

Kj

Or a reflex sight, I like the Leopold one with the delta, use the point of the triangle for precision work and the whole delta for snap shooting.

https://www.leupold.com/hunting-shoo...ss-slot-mount/

Will the scope still hold a decent zero when you get to the tops and put it on for a long shot?

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Will the scope still hold a decent zero when you get to the tops and put it on for a long shot?

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I have another specialist scope also on quick release for the rifle and they both swap about and hold exact zero every time, so no problem there.

Cut my teeth on a 303 back in the 70's, had a 300yd peep, worked well, might be a little nostalgia creeping in here:)

There is a RRA flip up front sight that you could adapt to your barrel.
Not sexy but fast and efficient and if there is enough space between your suppressor back end and your stock and it will fit, you will be able to keep the suppressor on and save your ears.

https://www.rockriverarms.com/index....ategory_id=323

I would remove the ugly sling attachments, noisy, useless and affecting barrel harmonics.
And you can clamp a tacticool torch or laser below the sight! :-)

Why take off the front sight? With a 4x you will not see it anyway I'd expect. (Too close to the scope to focus on) Or do you mean the rear sight?

For the removable option, you will need very good rings as you will likely be wanting the scope for long shots which will be out with even the slightest of variance in alignment. It can be done but the only ones I have seen that were accurate enough for me were on scopes upwards of $4k on rifles designed for it (over $12k).

I would actually suggest dropping back to a 1.5-6x scope and leave it on, or learn to get the most from peep sights at long range. Otherwise peep through rings would be an option, but not what I would do myself.

In case anyone is interested the $12k + $4k combo was a Kreighoff Semprio with a Swarovski and a custom interchange mount for the swap barrel arrangemeent (223 / 300 win mag)

Taking scopes on and off needs very expensive mounts in my experience.
A small secondary red dot mounted above your main scope would be fine for bush hunting, could be done for under $300 buying in NZ , less than the cheapest reliable qr mount I have found.

What about a laser mounted on the barrel with a pressure switch on the fore stock.
There good to ten meters also shows if you have any obstructions in the way..
Point and shoot.

ask rev rog to desighn something for you :)

Would a 1x4 or a 1x6 power scope be a better solution?

Mount a reflex sight on an angle beside your stock somehow , like in all the video games

Good excuse to add another gun to the arsenal?

My 2cents is if you wish to have a front sight it will need to be on the barrel behind the suppressor, cant see it being accurate enough otherwise as point of aim will shift depending on how tight the suppressor is.
I am guessing as you mount peep to a rail you will have enough height to mount the front sight high enough to clear the suppressor, just a matter of finding a high enough ramp and blade to suit, if not able to then apparently not too hard to extend a blade higher.

Cheers

Dino

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Originally Posted by 257weatherby

I have acquired a New England Arms rear peep for the rail on my T3 , barrel is threaded for suppressor, am working on ideas for how I will make a removable front sight so I can switch from the scope (on quick release weavers) to the peep depending on the bush, not taken the last two "spook and shoot" opportunities as too close to determine aim point, having a colour in your scope doesn't count (4.5-14 loopy). I tend to be slower and more deliberate about taking shots than some.

Quite like the idea of my 18" 6.5 T3 on open sights, so looking for clever ideas as to how to make what I want for the front end.

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Had one of these set up on my Mini14, it seemed like a good idea back then but never got to use it.
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More here: Magpul rear sight after scope install and storage question - Page 3 - AR15.COM

I use a side mount optic like in the pic above, on my open rifle. They work brilliant.

Should work in a piggyback setup too

Offset red dot = great, offset irons = terrible, both are slightly more tacticool than BUIS mounted with a scope, are you going to run an over-barrel suppressor?
I would have thought possibly mounting a foresight on a threaded cap would be accurate enough for an open sight? Otherwise barrel mounting a flip up

I run a JP offset V blade and post iron sight, that I grabbed off a member on here, on my AR.

I have fitted an intrafuse coloured front sight and can shoot it accurately enough to hit A zones all day long inside 50 m.
It fits a rail and I only put it on when needed.
Holds perfect zero and a similar setup would be more than adequate for close range type hunting.


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Why take off the front sight? With a 4x you will not see it anyway I'd expect. (Too close to the scope to focus on) Or do you mean the rear sight?

For the removable option, you will need very good rings as you will likely be wanting the scope for long shots which will be out with even the slightest of variance in alignment. It can be done but the only ones I have seen that were accurate enough for me were on scopes upwards of $4k on rifles designed for it (over $12k).

I would actually suggest dropping back to a 1.5-6x scope and leave it on, or learn to get the most from peep sights at long range. Otherwise peep through rings would be an option, but not what I would do myself.

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Must be something wrong with how I do stuff sometimes, this is the 3rd rifle where I have used a rail and quick detatch rings, and they keep holding zero and I keep shooting stuff a long way off, but everybody keeps telling me I can't do it! I want to organise a front sight that gives me the option of suppressor or not, Friwi's idea looks good, alternately making something based around the threaded cap is a goer if I live without the suppressor.

somewhere on another thread some chaps were doing it for their pig hunting rifles.....mounted an aperture on a scope base.......... got me thinking why not fit one in reap scope base and another in the front........ pistol type site radius but enough for bush ranges. magic red lazer beam sounds like a winner to me, they work as a rangefinder too if you mount then slightly above or below scope. have beam hitting crosshair at say 100 yards then you know if you are under or over that range by where dot is in scope.....

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somewhere on another thread some chaps were doing it for their pig hunting rifles.....mounted an aperture on a scope base.......... got me thinking why not fit one in reap scope base and another in the front........ pistol type site radius but enough for bush ranges. magic red lazer beam sounds like a winner to me, they work as a rangefinder too if you mount then slightly above or below scope. have beam hitting crosshair at say 100 yards then you know if you are under or over that range by where dot is in scope.....

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Funnily enough, the idea of using the rail itself for both sights occurred to me when I was trolling ebay, there is a lot of stuff there cheap enough to buy on spec, just to see if it works, all sorts of barrel mounted options too, AR type stuff, but just ream the barrel mount to suit.

Sounds gimmicky why not just ditch the luppy (I still don't no how they charge so much for a scope with only a 3x mag range) and buy something useful like a 2-10hd5 or a 3-10 swaro or even a 2-12vx6... Or even a March 52mm version...

T3 Battue?

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Where do I put the suppressor?

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Funnily enough, the idea of using the rail itself for both sights occurred to me when I was trolling ebay, there is a lot of stuff there cheap enough to buy on spec, just to see if it works, all sorts of barrel mounted options too, AR type stuff, but just ream the barrel mount to suit.

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Yeah, probably thats the easiest. It shouldn't be to difficult to make something like this to fit the barrel just before the suppr. or half way up the barrel scout style than it shouldnt get tangled.
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But it depends on the height you need. It can be detach if indexed on the barrel like some of the brakes. Used to have an old Mauser with the claw type detach mount, never had any issues with accuracy after removing. People always said it won't hold zero but none of them actually owned one in their life.