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Does anyone here have any first hand experience with Steiner scopes, specifically the new model Predator 8 series. The predator 8 3-24x50 retails at $2999. At that price I'm not sure why anyone wouldn't go this route vs say a Leupold VX6. Its hard to argue against the quality of the European glass. i'm in the market for a good quality higher magnification scope for a .223 that I've just put together and seriously considering this scope
No experience with that particular scope, but iv got a Military M5xi for the same price if interested
https://www.nzhuntingandshooting.co....reticle-98444/
Have you seen the new Delta Stryker 3.5-21x44?
Yep I did see them. I need a 50mm Objective and SFP. I will come and see you at Sika show.Quote:
Originally Posted by DELTA NZ
SFP boo
Feel free to take it with a grain of salt as i am the wholesaler, but the predator 8 is a great scope. The glass is at 92% light transmission and weight is spot on for the size. Adjustable turrets for your load and generous eye box.
Olny one downside is you get one rotation from zero stop in elevation. (about 14.2MOA off the top of my head)
Yeah, I found the Predator 8. It was my other choice. I would still like to look at 1. Will you have them at the Sika Show?Quote:
Originally Posted by mcche171
Is the predator and ranger the same scopeQuote:
Originally Posted by mcche171
Hi. No the ranger is the European spec model and we in NZ run off the US spec. In a way it’s almost backwards as US typically love MIL but in this case are running MOA.
The Ranger has larger objective sizes (56mm on the 3-24) and a fire dot plex reticle. The predators have the E3 reticle and run MOA.
Anyone had some experience with these yet? Comparing the specs it looks like a good buy, but very little chat about them.
@mcche171 are you the whole saler for Burris also?Quote:
Originally Posted by mcche171
I've been looking at reviews for the Burris XTR3 ever since it was announced but the NZ prices are crazy, more expensive than the Steiner T5xi (should be cheaper based on US prices) and the new models XTR3i and XTR Pro haven't even made it here by looks of things.
The HX6 or whatever looks mean, light and ffp but..... for some reason MOA only. It's insane how scope manufacturers keep just missing the mark on making a good mid range crossover scope. Every single time there's something
30mm tube
2/3 - 12/18 x 40-50
550-650gm
Exposed elevation turret
Zero stop
Parallax
Mil adjustments
Nice mil hash FFP reticle
Not junk
They've announced a Mil FFP version at shotshow.Quote:
Originally Posted by gimp
I'm not convinced the reticle is going to be usable at low magnification, will have to wait for reviews.
There's a thread on Snipershide about it.
mil christmas tree reticle is a bit too busy for a 2-12, just a basic mil hash would keep me happyQuote:
Originally Posted by Beetroot
I wouldnt mind something like the Bushnell G3 reticle, but I don't think this kind of tree is well suited to the mag range.Quote:
Originally Posted by gimp
I still have the 2.5-10x32 PST I bought off you years ago, in many ways its still one of the best scopes in this mag range.
@gimp you had a PMII at one time ? Youve been spoiled. Just that 800g plus …
Yes. Nice, heavy and 34mm though..Quote:
Originally Posted by Bagheera
Also have a March F 3-24 which I like but the 24x top end is unnecessary, unusable and probably compromises the optical usability, a 3-18 Mk6 which is realllllly nice but 34mm limits good mounting options (mainly this is a problem for me specifically as a Model 7 owner), an old Mk4 3.5-10x40 FFP which is cool, pretty retro but nothing wrong with it.... had a Bushnell LRHS, etc.
Still hunting for the perfect option
Ah cool, sell it back to me.... ? I forgot who I sold that to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beetroot
I'm not sure I'll ever sell it, I think it's my favorite scope.Quote:
Originally Posted by gimp
What do you think of the Mark 4 3.5-10?
Does it still hold up to todays standards or is it getting a bit tired looking?
Limited zoom range, big tall M1 turrets, no zero stop, not much travel per turn..... other than that it's mint. It's real light, I've always liked the TMR reticle, and the scope mechanically works great.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beetroot
Not that much has really substantially improved since - there's more choice in good quality scopes, zoom ranges have exploded, they're all way heavier, and reticles are more complicated.
My local H&F had a Steiner Predator 8 3-24x50 on sale for $1999, so picked it up as it's pretty much the perfect score for my use case. 8x zoom range, SFP, 716g, 30mm tube, exposed elevation turret with zero stop, parallax, illuminated, E3 reticle isn't too bad and not bothered that it's in MOA
Jeez thats an amazing deal they retail at a grand more than that. Do they have any more?Quote:
Originally Posted by samohtxotom
Pretty crazy alright I was considering buying one at $3000 anyway so to see it for that price there's no way it wasn't leaving with me. They did not but they did have the 2-16x42 version also on special can't remember the price though probably $1499Quote:
Originally Posted by zeropak
Thanks for that I assume you were in Manawatu H&F. I will give Simon a call.Quote:
Originally Posted by samohtxotom
Indeed hopefully they have something for youQuote:
Originally Posted by zeropak