looking to buy a new rifle, trying to decide between the t3x and the sauer 100xt they both cost 1499
i was thinking 308 or 7mm08 barrel cut down to 20 inches and suppressed to be used as my all purpose hunting rifle
please advise
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looking to buy a new rifle, trying to decide between the t3x and the sauer 100xt they both cost 1499
i was thinking 308 or 7mm08 barrel cut down to 20 inches and suppressed to be used as my all purpose hunting rifle
please advise
I can't help with your decision, but you can buy a Tikka T3x with a factory threaded 20 inch barrel from H&F. It costs an extra $100 over the standard model. If you have access to a good gunsmith, then buying something off the shelf to meet your requirements is less of an issue.
Better check if the Sig barrel is a press or screw job first.
Sauer 100 is screw in, 101 is not. @Philipo is currently doing a review on the 100 for a magazine, im sure he wpuld love to share his unbiased opinion..
anyone tried the hardy gen 6 suppressor?
I haven't handled a 100 but I had a 101 but traded for a finnlight the Sauer seemed way superior build wise to the Sako, much nicer/smoother bolt & way better bedding, a nice big ejection port, but probably a little heavier. LOP on the Sauers are often 14+ inches and a different palm swell so best to find a shop that has both to see what suits your hold. Both are good guns, you won't make a bad decision.
Sauer imho
Got both. Like the Sauer a lot more personally
Sauer - have 2 (one for sale but that’s a 223) and had Tikkas before -
For $1400 you could also pick up a brand new Bergara B14.
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They're a steal for $1400 and because they're built on a Rem 700 system, all the parts are interchangable with aftermarket Rem 700 parts.
Right.. im gonna give my honest opinion on the Sauer 100. I owned one that I bought brand new and to begin with I thought it was a nice rifle and I actually preferred it to any Tikka I had owned. But then once I had it a while I began to notice things that were not so flash about it...
The number one issue is the bolt stop setup and the fact that if you pull the bolt back with some upwards pressure on the bolt knob you can often get the bolt stop to let go and the bolt will rotate right around and get jammed in the action facing the opposite way than it should. All of them do this, I tried a few in a shop to see if it was just a problem with mine but its not. The bolt stop itself is also very flimsy and wriggles around all sloppy and looks about half the size it should be to match the hole in the action for it. This in my mind is a MAJOR flaw as if it happens to you when youre about to put a second shot into a wounded animal, you (and the poor animal) are shit out of luck and you will end up dicking around with it for ages trying to get it back to where it should be. I have a photo of this situation whoch I will share if the owner gives me permission as it was not my rifle but yet another that had done it and caused considerable stress to rectify.
Another thing that was really irritating about the rifle was the way it was pillared and bedded, the front action screw is actually pulled down tight with a nut behind the floor plate, this is a pain in the ass as you need a complete mechanics tool set with all the fruit just to take it out of the stock.
This brings me to the third thing I really did not like about the Sauer, the rear action screw is "pillar bedded" but instead of an aluminium pillar bedded into the stock Sauer have just banged a heap of washers in there so you take it out of the stock and end up with a pocketfull of washers all rolling around the floor, under the fridge etc never to be seen again. This is really sloppy workmanship and not what I would expect from a rifle with a European pedigree. Shot Alright though
There are "Sauers" and then there are Sauers.
A Sauer 404, 202, or an older model made under the Colt name are what the Sauer name is built on, and all fetch high prices and are very well made.
I had to send my Wood/blue Sauer 100 back, it would feed the first rd and none other, tried the magazine in two other rifles and it worked fine.
So as I was only interested in the wood model and it apparently couldn't be fixed and there were no more I no longer have a Sauer 100.
I know it's only one rifle, but.... Ryan's makes two and my neighbour across the road makes three, I believe there was one about in the Nrth Island that wasn't exactly pleasing as well.
If I ever do buy another Sauer I'm positive it will be one a peg or two up the food chain than the 100 though I'm sure there are hundreds about that
work just fine.
Mines a 101, not actually used a 100
O.K. I've never picked up a 100 and always wondered why it was $1k cheaper than the 101 but looked similar in pictures.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan_Songhurst
But I have to say if you don't own the tools to take the stock off the rifle or hard drive from your computer, then you should probably never take the stock off your rifle or hard drive out of your computer.
Sauer mid weight barrel, 3 position safety, no chance of losing the bolt or mag, much easier to scope up (uses remmy700 bases), and much nicer stock won it over the Tikka for me.
mate has one in 6.5cm great rifle, bit heavy and long for the bush
mate has one (bergara) in 6.5cm great rifle, bit heavy and long for the bush
Sounds like the 100 has a few first gen quality/design issues. Be interesting to see the second gen. Early adopters often come across this.
The tikka is tried and true. You know what you will get and that is a light, relatively basic, and very accurate hunting rifle. Good aftermarket now, and decent resale.
The bergaras are another good option, bit heavy and only blued though which is a no go for me in a hunting rifle.
Just buy the tikka. It will work
I went sauer,
bolt stop seems ok
tried to get it to malfunction, it didnt
got a package with a ziess 2-7 and a 20inch barrel , sonic suppressor
i had my last rifle (rem 700) for ten years and only ever pulled it out of the stock for curiosity's sake once , so i wont mess with that
just felt better on the shoulder
Thanks for the advise guys
Let us know how it shoots. If they can iron out a few kinks it would be great to have another quality option in that mid -lower price rangeQuote:
Originally Posted by muka88
took it out for a spin this arvo sighed it in at 100 with some cheap cheap ammo, shot a two inch group of 3 at best, no flash out passed the can , very nice to carry, recoil next to nothing(im used to 270),bolt sticks a bit at the front when chambering i hope this will go away with use, sonic suppressor works well hearing protection not needed but gets hot very fast , three groups of three and then needs a rest.my mates running a 308 with a hush power and full lenth barrel and mine is around the same volume i recon i little less even.
il put some hornady down her this weekend at the range and see what happens
