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Hey guys - talk me out of it.
Been looking at super bush pigs - magnums that are 18-20” barrels.
l see this topic on here occasionally but always around reload only cartridges- (284 & 7saum)
Has anyone here actually done one with factory ammo and rifles -ie a 7mm REM mag, 300winmag - 300wsm and can tell me what it’s like? I have a short 16” barrel 308 and a 22” barrel 270 which are both good at what they are but I’d like to only have to have one gun and really get good with it.
Thoughts?
You lost me at one gun :) :)
20” 7mm rem mag. Seen/loaded a good few now. Multiple mates with them. Work mint. 18” too short for a rem mag.
May have a 300wsm 20" Tikka FS
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Could be keen on that 300wsm just have to sell my 308 first
Poor possums, rabbits and magpiesQuote:
Originally Posted by 7mmsaum
One gun mmm Alien concept
I have 7 - and wouldn’t mind selling 3 and replacing with something more all purpose - hence this post.
The ole 270 shooting a 140gr at 3100 does wonders to rabbits and possums.
Don't be scared off by going under 20", heres my latest
270wsm, Sako 85, 18" barrel, 140 BT's doing 3050 fps with 68g of RL26 & shooting under .5"
I doubt you'll get speeds anywhere close to that with standard factory ammo, but then for a bush pig that's probably not a priority.
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Originally Posted by Philipo
Nice Phil short mags love short barrels that’s mean
I’ve got pretty much the same setup. Have shot deer to 450 m with it and it works good.
Nice I would love one of those Sako sQuote:
Originally Posted by Philipo
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bush pig, short barrel, then you have to go 35 cal and make a big hole,
reasearch 35 whelen loads easily good to 350 mtr in the whelen (3006 cartridge base), I use a 358 win based on the 308 and that a 300 mtr load.
the 35 whelen can throw a 200 gr bullet at 3000 fps for 4000 flb of energy.
(Hammer bullets list a 178gr at 3200 fps and 203gr at 3040 fps)
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Yeah it's not super light @ just over 8.5lb by todays standards ( yes I know that sounds kinda stupid for a suppressed magnum capable of going to 650y with a Z5 ) but I'm midget not a big burly sheep farmer
It shoots surprisingly soft recoil wise for what it is, just need to go kill something instead of shooting trees, YAY WORK
I didn't set this up as a "bush stumpie" but could be very useful - capable as one
What's everyone else running to get SD thirsty ?
Run of the mill T3X 300wsm 18”. VX5 and DPT. Just a tool. Re17 pushes 168s at 2820Quote:
Originally Posted by Philipo
My tikka 300wsm has a 22” barrel but will be chopping to 20”. Atm the factory nosler 165bts are doing 3065fps. At 20” they will still be going close to 3000 if not over. Id say thats a super handy rig with factory ammo. And the recoil is fine with the 165s. Limbsaver and dpt job done.
I know where one is but it has a factory laminated stockQuote:
Originally Posted by 25/08 IMP
^^^proven shooter feels like a toy in hand it’s so lightQuote:
Originally Posted by stagstalker
Yea a 20” 7mm or 300wsm maybe the go - have been looking into 18” 6.5PRC
They seem quite interesting and capable
Mate brought my 20" he is getting 2760fps from the 147eldm, dam dose that gun shootQuote:
Originally Posted by SpeightsDrinker
Tikka strata 300wsm cut to 20 inches,dpt,vx5..178eldx pushed by RL17 2860fpsAttachment 271056
I run a 18” 6.5SST- similar to a 6.5PRC but slightly shorter to suit a short action better. The key is to hand load for short barrels.
147gr ELDM @ 2800fps
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I like the Sherman’s Richard was pretty responsive when reaching out which is always appreciatedQuote:
Originally Posted by MattS
Nice rifle, what stock is that in? Am looking at putting my tikka 300wsmQuote:
Originally Posted by Monk
Into a new stock soon.
It’s a Southfort labs one.Quote:
Originally Posted by H.M
300 saum, 20" Hardy, 168NBT 3100fps (R17). Stug stock. Tiny groups. Light. The best big gun Ive had. Son @craigc has got it now - early inheritance.
Nah. You lose too much performance with the chop unless you want to spike the pressure beyond reasonable. I did a 20" and was disappointed.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpeightsDrinker
Am following this thread eagerly.
Thinking about doing a 300wsm superbush pig with a 18" barrel, dpt can with break baffle. Realistic velocity for 195gr TMK? Just as something for a compact tops gun.
I don’t reload so factory options only - not super keen on buying rifles and swapping barrels either. I think I’ve settled on a 6.5prc cut down to 18/19/20” somewhere there. So cleaning out safe to make room.
I was thinking about similar and moving on my 7mm rem,
However done some digging and found that the 6.5prc isn't a race horse with the factory hornady ammo.
This was followed up by ironically a week ago I was watching an Instagram story (disappeared now so I can't see the exact figures). Was a 20inch cut tikka, new. Precision match hornady over a chrono. It was horrendously slow, i think it was 2400fps or something for a 147eldm (don't quote me).
Something to do your research on and I would hate for you to be disappointed if it wasn't what you were expecting (this guy was from his comments and surprised manner)
Do not get a prc if you do not reload. Factory ammo is lethargic
The 6.5 PRC factory ammo varies a lot, from lot to lot. I shot a 22" Tikka and Norma 143 Bondstrikes were a pitiful 2670 fps. A cobber has the identical rifle and got 2870 with one batch of Hornardy 140s, another box was way less . . .
What are these issues?
So far I’ve had nothing but good with Hornady ammo being within a few fps of box velocity.
Already said above but don't go short on a 6.5 PRC. I went to 20 inches with mine and the factory Norma ammo was doing 2520fps.
I reload for it now and am somewhere around 3000fps with the 143 ELD-X but it took a lot of mucking around to get there. If you want a short 6.5 get a creedmooore and be happy.
Short barreled magnums though, 300wsm you can't go wrong. Most 300wsm ammo is pretty fast from the factory and it's a very efficient cartridge. I load 208 ELDM for mine and they're doing a out 2750, 20 inch barrel.
Got offered a 300wsm tikka at a sharp price off this thread - so may go down that route again instead of the PRC.
Wonder how they go cut to 18” shooting the 165gr.
I shoot the 168s in 18” using Re17. Mild as load doing 2820fps. Puts big holes in stuff as far as I need to.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpeightsDrinker
I run a tikka t3x 300wsm cut to 18”, had it up to 2850fps with 178eldm reloads and 3100 with 150gr ttsx but now just shoot factory 200gr Hornady precision hunter @ 2660fps. Might make a 200gr load one day but the factory ammo is super accurate, 6-700 yards is well doable.
All some pretty good feedback
