Thread: Suppressing a Rossi Puma 92 in 44mag

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

think .22lr cause trajectory is similar..... and for what its worth,using subsonic in 22lr I no longer bother with suppressor,its quiet enough for me.
said this before will probably end up saying it again..with subs it is ALL about hitting in eggzachary the right place,zero margain for error as zero shock factor...you are in effect doing same as a fella with bow and arrow using field points.... it bores a calibre sized hole through stuff,VERY LITTLE bruising as very little shockwave....the leighigh projectiles and a couple of other new kids on the block work on making projectile fly apart sort of like mechanical broadhead to increase the wound cavity size but its still a cutting wound not a shock factor(like being stabbed Vs being punched) if you miss brain/spine by an inch animal will run away wounded,whereas if projectile going not a hell of a lot faster had hit same place it would stun them somewhat allowing follow up shot...... chest shots are chest shots but with a sub again its a cutting wound without the punch factor.
I believe Im close to the ultimate bailed pig load...well it WILL BE two loads ,as there is no way around the shortcomings of subs
first load will be a cast ,powder coated as soft of lead as possible.or a 180 grn XTP....probably going between 1000-1100fps so on edge of subsonic
and second load will be hotter than a $2 pistol wont matter so much what projectile as long as it hits hard and DOESNT EXIT.....the soft cast do this very very well....
first load for quiet pigs or smaller pigs and second for the big suckers who may injure dogs or just wont stand and play ball.
I stuffed it up often enough head shooting my own sheep with subsonic .30 calibre to make me just go back to using .223 with normal loads.....far superior results

I think with the subsonics, on the bigger animals, its not so much the shockwave, but that there is enough 'play' in the organ cavity for things to move around a bit and move out of the way as the projectile bulldozes its way through.

I think of it like a parked car without handbrake applied and not in gear. Gets hit end on by a pushbike doing 50km/h. (like a .223) There will be some damage.
Same car same situation and gets hit by a big truck doing 2km/h. (like a subsonic .44) No dent in car because it rolls out of the way.

Another way to picture it is to push an object slowly across your bicep in a straight line, the muscle will yield, then imagine same object doing >2000fps, it would just rip a hole.