Thread: thanks heather

just went to the police station to fill in my 1st mail order form since some tv reporter named heather decided to break several laws but got off scott free and we are the ones that got the punishment which we are all well used to now when anyone dose something dumb

what used to take 5mins now takes 20min with all the extra info needed and then they have to snail mail it to the arms office who ok's it
what a hassle lol

thanks heather really appreciate your good work....... not

Completely different experience to my most recent purchases / sales.


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Originally Posted by sambnz

Completely different experience to my most recent purchases / sales.


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must be very new I haven't done any in a few months as ive been broke so no money for new firearms
I needed
*his name, licence number, address, phone number, email, (so the PH number and email is info ive never needed from the seller that you now do)
firearm details,
I needed my firearms licence, address, phone numbers email, drivers licence or 2nd form of id, and other info to that ive never needed

and its got to be sent to the arms office to be signed off apparently before getting sent to him

Originally Posted by rambo-6mmrem

must be very new I haven't done any in a few months as ive been broke so no money for new firearms
I needed
*his name, licence number, address, phone number, email, (so the PH number and email is info ive never needed from the seller that you now do)
firearm details,
I needed my firearms licence, address, phone numbers email, drivers licence or 2nd form of id, and other info to that ive never needed

and its got to be sent to the arms office to be signed off apparently before getting sent to him

That drivers license bit isn't necessary, they have a box on there for kids or airguns or whatever

[QUOTE=Rambo

Cant see how any of that is unreasonable

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Cant see how any of that is unreasonable[/QUOTE]
I don't think its unreasonable just a bit of a more of a hassle
probably for the better will make it harder to jimmy the form and obtain a gun without a licence..... but just caught me by surprise when they handed me the new form and how much extra effort went into it and the arms office sign off bit etc

[QUOTE=scoped;469247][QUOTE=Rambo

Cant see how any of that is unreasonable[/QUOTE]
Can't see how any of that is legally required.

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new form
http://www.police.govt.nz/sites/defa...m-nzp-s43a.pdf

I'd be pretty surprised if she came up with the story.

Have to say it's easier and faster now at our local station, they email it to our AO, who checks/signs it off, and emails it to the seller. Only extra info needed is a couple of details about the seller and their email address which you get through trademe etc anyway.

"Types of firearm(s) the ammunition will be used in" - Eat a dick, seriously.

Originally Posted by Jexla

"Types of firearm(s) the ammunition will be used in" - Eat a dick, seriously.

"Type 69 meat cannon."

Most people selling airguns dont seem to bother about needing the mail order form to verify age, it is interesting that the Police form states that it is the only way to take reasonable steps to ascertain age or FAL. I also have no idea how their restricted airgun system works, being any airgun that looks like a pistol, that kind of reads like anyone buying an air pistol off tardme has to belong to some sort of club?

Edit, ok that is from a licensed firearms dealer, still kind of strange

Originally Posted by Chilli_Dog

it is interesting that the Police form states that it is the only way to take reasonable steps to ascertain age or FAL.

Police don't have the authority to make that determination, only the courts do.

Originally Posted by Chilli_Dog

I also have no idea how their restricted airgun system works, being any airgun that looks like a pistol, that kind of reads like anyone buying an air pistol off tardme has to belong to some sort of club?

S43a mail order forms aren't required for Air soft. They are only required for firearms, ammunition and restricted weapons (and yet not restricted weapons? )

Restricted airguns aren't restricted weapons.



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Originally Posted by Koshogi

Police don't have the authority to make that determination, only the courts do.


S43a mail order forms aren't required for Air soft. They are only required for firearms, ammunition and restricted weapons (and yet not restricted weapons? )

Restricted airguns aren't restricted weapons.



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They may well not be, but the police have got a very specific paragraph about them on the second page of the mail order form. Then with the incredibly vague description of a restricted airgun being anything that looks like a pistol.... which Im guessing they actually mean a loose copy of an actual firearm, although maybe they are leaving this open because of the whole pistol grip thing.

Edit, the Whole PCP pistol thing, even though these can be held without a FAL it seems it is impossible to import one